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Ask HN: The best Linux laptop

74 pointsby Nibover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve been thinking since quite a while to replace my current laptop. It&#x27;s a 2011 VAIO which I modified to run Ubuntu 14.04 . But, it seems to be giving up on me since a few days, and with the thanksgiving discounts going, I might actually get myself one :P<p>So, what is the best laptop that runs Linux natively, or after modifying. Plus, try to make it a little more affordable($200 - $850).<p>P.S. Nobody mention the Mac, it&#x27;s a beauty in itself, and I won&#x27;t be able to replace OS X by Linux emotionally.

31 comments

josephkernover 10 years ago
Stick with thinkpads and checkout ThinkWiki[1] to make sure that there are no oddities you are not willing to work through on the model you want to buy.<p>The Dell XPS Developer Edition[2] comes with Linux installed, and has supported binary drivers from Dell. Just a little outside your price range.<p>[1]: <a href="http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thinkwiki.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ThinkWiki</a> [2]: <a href="http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dell.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;business&#x2F;p&#x2F;xps-13-linux&#x2F;pd</a>
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tdicolaover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure why you&#x27;re ruling out Mac laptops, perhaps you think they&#x27;re too expensive? I was a long time Thinkpad user but converted to a MacBook Air a few years ago and haven&#x27;t looked back at all since. You can run Linux in a VM perfectly, and OSX itself has some nice Unix features.<p>Right now you can get a 13&quot; MacBook Air with good specs for $800: <a href="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-macbook-air-latest-model-13-3-display-intel-core-i5-4gb-memory-128gb-flash-storage/2712009.p?acampID=0&amp;ref=8575135&amp;loc=0&amp;id=1219076158205&amp;skuId=2712009" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bestbuy.com&#x2F;site&#x2F;apple-macbook-air-latest-model-1...</a> IMHO this is the way to go. No $800 Windows laptop is going to come close to the build quality of the MacBook Air.
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CraigJPerryover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve always gone thinkpad for Linux and never really been let down.<p>I got an M$ Surface Pro 3 last month (don&#x27;t laugh) but its actually first rate, hardware wise.<p>Fedora doesn&#x27;t quite work perfectly yet but its pretty close.<p>High DPI touch screens rock!
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CoffeeDregsover 10 years ago
EDIT: oops. I just noticed your price range. The X1 Carbon doesn&#x27;t fit with that.<p>I would strongly recommend the last generation Lenovo X1 Carbon, but I would strongly recommend <i>against</i> the current X1 Carbon for a few reasons:<p>- They merged the trackpoint&#x27;s buttons into the trackpad&#x27;s and now it&#x27;s very difficult find the middle chord or to select text using the trackpoint.<p>- They merged the function keys with the utility keys (e.g. volume control) into a single, dynamic row, so closing a window (Alt-F4) often requires you to toggle from utility to function key. If this sounds confusing and useless, it is.<p>- Worst, because of the doubled-up row (fn, utility), Esc and ~ wound up overlaid. So they moved the ~ next to the LOWER RIGHT Alt key. I hit Esc every time I try to reference my home directory...<p>Other than that, it&#x27;s a lovely laptop.<p>Oh and don&#x27;t get a HighDPI display unless you want to deal with funky application layout issues...
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wandaover 10 years ago
Lenovo Thinkpads have always made for good Linux machines, and even now nothing seems like it will ever beat old Thinkpad keyboards. New Thinkpads are still good but I&#x27;ve never been a big fan of the chiclet keyboards and the resolutions sometimes seem to be worse than in the past.<p>Of course, there is always: <a href="https://system76.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;system76.com</a><p>but I&#x27;ve yet to give any of their gear a spin.
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keybitsover 10 years ago
Dell Latitude&#x27;s work well. I&#x27;m currently on an E6320 with Xubuntu 14.04. I&#x27;ve removed the DVD drive and replaced it with a 2nd SSD so I have dual SSD&#x27;s in a 13&quot; laptop. Everything works perfectly including the docking bay which allows me to plug in a 27&quot; monitor at 2560x1440 via Display Port. Multi monitor switching works better than Windows 8.1 for me since it&#x27;s hot swap and the windows retain sensible sizes for when the larger display is plugged back in (they all instantly resize in Windows).<p>The new E7440 is very nice and can be had for great prices on eBay. I tried one of these with the Full HD IPS screen. Unfortunately I couldn&#x27;t get HiDPI to work to my satisfaction (even with latest Gnome and KDE). Having said that, I couldn&#x27;t get Windows 8.1 to work to my satisfaction either.
larzangover 10 years ago
A lot of people haven&#x27;t heard of them, but Clevo is a major laptop OEM that makes both rock-solid business platforms and gaming platforms. Sager, System76, FalconNW, and most other boutique laptop builders use rebadged&#x2F;modified Clevo systems. Clevo doesn&#x27;t sell direct to customers, but there are plenty of sites where you can buy customized or barebones systems for very reasonable prices.<p>This summer I bought a W670SZQ from AVADirect, with an i5 and SSD it was just under $900. For a full size 17&quot; laptop the weight is very reasonable, and it&#x27;s a great system that Xubuntu and Mint worked fine on with zero tweaking.
sampoover 10 years ago
HP EliteBook Folio 1040, 14&quot; 1920x1080 screen:<p>Pros: Thinner (1.59 cm vs 2.06 cm) and lighter (1.49 kg vs 1.58 kg) than ThinkPad T440s. Everything in Ubuntu works.<p>Cons: The keys are flat (like in Macs), I&#x27;d prefer some contour like in ThinkPads. Touchpad has no mouse buttons: 2-finger tap on the touchpad (for right-click) is quite easy, but 3-finger taps (for middle-click) is a little tricky. Also selecting text by pressing on the pressure-sensitive touchpad while moving the cursor is a little tricky. Personally, I always use external mouse, so I don&#x27;t care.
loudmaxover 10 years ago
I bought an X230 Thinkpad a year ago, and I&#x27;m quite pleased with it.<p>I wanted an SSD, but I found it was cheaper to select the cheapest hard drive they had and then buy an SSD from Newegg than to get the SSD from Lenovo. Replacing the drive was quite easy, not like a tablet or cell phone. It goes without saying, but you should do the same for RAM.<p>A month or so after I bought it, the fan stopped working. Their customer service was quite good. They sent me a box so I could return my laptop, and they fixed the fan and shipped it back at no cost to me.
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lsiebertover 10 years ago
So you don&#x27;t say what you consider best. Do you need a discrete GPU and a huge screen? Do you want a lightweight ultraportable with great battery life?<p>Also after christmas sales are often good for tech, if you can wait. You can often get refurbs from returns for great prices.<p>I&#x27;m on a thinkpad T530. added an aftermarket SSD and 16 gb of ram (You need a W system to get 32GB, but it&#x27;s possible). Note, get an intel wifi card that supports 2.5 and 5.0 channels. a T540 is a substantially better machine, both with haswell getting better power managment, and the ability to hotswap batteries because of a smaller internal battery.<p>I also have an hp chromebook 14 running crouton lubuntu 14.04 I got for $236 on woot. It&#x27;s fine as a secondary laptop, and seems to have good battery life. I do occasionally miss having a meta key. I run xfce, not unity, and I&#x27;d recommend a light-weight DE. It is notably slower compiling (things like YouCompleteMe&#x27;s C++ code for vim).<p>The other thing to consider is a cheap foreign made computer, like Sager or Clevo. They are bare bones systems, but that&#x27;s often better for linux support. I&#x27;d also look at resources from reddit&#x27;s r&#x2F;SuggestALaptop like <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SuggestALaptop/comments/2448oy/guide_1400_are_you_looking_for_a_programming/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;SuggestALaptop&#x2F;comments&#x2F;2448oy&#x2F;guide...</a>
nickysielickiover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m a fan of really cheap chromebooks.<p>The Toshiba CB35 that recently came out is my current laptop. Don&#x27;t buy that right now, though. We don&#x27;t have the coreboot situation worked out, although we&#x27;re close. Currently hating myself by using crouton every day... But its still a great machine for the price.<p>For me, and probably you too, nothing matters more than display quality, keyboard quality, and battery life (in that order.) I do most everything remotely, so power isn&#x27;t even a part of the question.
dandelion_loverover 10 years ago
I would suggest the 2014 Holiday Giving Guide by FSF [0].<p><a href="https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/2014/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fsf.org&#x2F;givingguide&#x2F;2014&#x2F;</a>
simonblackover 10 years ago
Lenovo Thinkpad T410S here. The only thing I&#x27;ve done to it in the 4 years I&#x27;ve had it is to upgrade the 500gig hard drive to 2 TB. And when I bought it I specified the larger battery rather than the standard one. It has an included DVD drive which is surprisingly often used.<p>I have kept it as a Linux-Win7 dual-boot, but Windows is restricted to 50 gig and I&#x27;d boot this maybe 4-5 times a year, while the other 1950 gig is in use with Linux.
spectre256over 10 years ago
I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 and really like it. nice form factor, 3200x1800 screen (great DPI on a 12&quot; screen), pretty good battery life, and the folding screen lets me use a nice usb mechanical keyboard while on the go.<p>The wifi drivers are the only area that doesn&#x27;t have perfect linux support, but the 3.18 kernel is a drastic improvement, and more are coming.<p>Also, the price is right, mine was only $1000.
scalesolvedover 10 years ago
I own a Lenovo Thinkpad S540 and I just bought my second yesterday in the black Friday deals. For me it&#x27;s been the perfect Linux Laptop, practically everything works straight out of the box, good performance and I use it for home and professional programming. It&#x27;s slim and light, I&#x27;ve used it for travelling between Europe and the US and it&#x27;s been fine on the move (definitely not as petite as other ultrabooks though).<p>The specs are below:<p>- Intel Core i7-4510U Processor - 15.6&quot; FHD (1920x1080) Anti-glare Display Black - AMD Radeon HD 8670M Graphics 2GB - 16GB RAM - Keyboard Backlit - UK English - 256GB Solid State Drive Serial ATA3 OPAL2.0<p>I managed to get it for just over $1000 dollars yesterday so I know it&#x27;s a little out of your price range but I find the keyboard solid, screen is pretty good and I don&#x27;t notice any performance issues. (I mainly do Java development and that can be resource intensive).<p>Perhaps you could pick one up on ebay even cheaper, happy to answer any other questions you&#x27;ve got about it!
gvbover 10 years ago
I just ordered a Thinkpad T540p for $649 (plus tax, no s&#x2F;h) from the Lenovo site. &quot;Web list price&quot; is $1,413.00. I don&#x27;t know how long the deal will last. Obviously, I have not tried to run linux on it, but I don&#x27;t expect problems.<p>Downsides: It is a heavier machine at 5.5lbs. Battery life is good but not great. The display is decent resolution but not great.<p><a href="http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t540p/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;shop.lenovo.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;thinkpad&#x2F;t-series&#x2F;t540p...</a><p>Make sure you pick the best deal. :-)<p>Processor: 4th Generation Intel Core i5-4300M Processor( 2.60GHz 1600MHz 3MB)<p>Operating system: Windows 7 Professional 64<p>Display: 15.6&quot; FHD AntiGlare 1920x1080<p>Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4600<p>Memory: 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz<p>Hard Drive: 500GB 7200 rpm<p>Optical Drive: Multi Recorder<p>Network Card: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260<p>Bluetooth: Bluetooth Version 4.0<p>Warranty: Three year<p>Pointing device: Clickpad<p>Battery: 6 Cell Lithium-Cylindrical
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jqmover 10 years ago
Agreed on Thinkpads.<p>I just picked up two oldies (core2 duo) for less than $100 apiece on ebay. No hard drives, but I had some laying about. Although the tech is old, the machines are in amazing shape (they are so well built). They do everything I need with full Linux installs for less than the price of a chromebook.
bluedinoover 10 years ago
Intel-powered Chromebooks are great for running Linux and you can get them for $150-$300<p>The best part is you don&#x27;t have to run it inside ChromeOS, you can simply remove ChromeOS, enable the legacy boot loader, and use a regular old Ubuntu USB installer.<p>Of course, the models with more RAM are ideal, as well as being able to upgrade the M.2 SSD, but even a 2GB RAM&#x2F;16GB SSD model will run pretty good, especially if most of your work is remote or on the cloud. Ubuntu 14.04 takes up about 7GB of storage.<p>I love older Thinkpads but these are cheaper, slimmer, and have more battery life.
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cjbprimeover 10 years ago
The ThinkPad series (T400s, X1 Carbon) has the best Linux support; kernel developers often use them. But they&#x27;re out of your price range. Maybe you can find a deal on a T400, though?
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jebediahover 10 years ago
I am going to break OPs rule: anybody here has linux running on a macbook air? I really wanted to get a light laptop with a long battery and found no alternative as good as MBA
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jessaustinover 10 years ago
Depending on what you intend to use Linux for, a fairly recent Chromebook (I use the Acer C720) plus Crouton may be ideal. That won&#x27;t be the case if your main activity is Gimp&#x2F;Inkscape&#x2F;etc., but it definitely could be if you spend most of your time coding in vim. While I do like Inkscape, I&#x27;ve personally never fallen in love with the office-type Linux desktop apps, so using google equivalents is fine.
nostromoaover 10 years ago
Are you asking about the best laptop or the best laptop for Linux or what. Seems like any Intel laptop will work with Linux (if wrong state which don&#x27;t would be useful from someone). Using Ubuntu 14.10 seems fine if you don&#x27;t like their wanna be for touch screens etc style, Google &#x27;classic menu&#x27; and &#x27;14 things I did after installing Ubuntu 14 etc.&#x27; There is also Linux Mate which you can install over Ubuntu 14.10 for traditional desktop. Also you can install Linux in a Virtual Box Machine if you are running windows something or other. Separate Video card would be nice but not necessary. Linux will recognize your multiple processors in you Multi-Processor CPU unlike Windows which in many cases comes from the store set to default of ONE! &lt;--outrageous.
erkoseover 10 years ago
Consider a Think Penguin notebook <a href="https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/notebook-computers-gnu-linux-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thinkpenguin.com&#x2F;catalog&#x2F;notebook-computers-gnu-...</a>
bufordsharkleyover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve been running Ubuntu 14.04 on an ASUS i3-- a real bargain, and no headaches (other than a weird thing where the hardware switch for wireless is automatically disabled on reboot).
jhwhiteover 10 years ago
The Gazelle from System 76 is $799. It comes with Ubuntu.
clarryover 10 years ago
What about the best laptop that&#x27;s not tied to any particular OS? Also, is there something that&#x27;s fanless and doesn&#x27;t break the bank?
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lucb1eover 10 years ago
Someone in class and I both have an Asus N56-series. He runs Fedora, I use Linux Mint. No problems.
pXMzR2Aover 10 years ago
Also check out system76.com offerings. (I am not affiliated, just a happy customer.)
umrashrfover 10 years ago
Asus ZenBooks are good.
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foolinaroundover 10 years ago
one more nice to have is a backlit keyboard on the laptop. I find that it makes a world of difference as I try to hack away in the dark...
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hjwp3over 10 years ago
I recently went through a bit of a comparison exercise myself, after my Sony Vaio Z series packed in. I had a slightly higher budget than OP because I wanted something reasonably high-end, able to run several VMs for example, but nice and portable. So, in case anyone else finds it useful:<p>- probably the most sensible choice would have been a fully specced-up Galago from System 76: 16GB ram, core i7, space for two (!) SSDs, etc etc. On the pure specs, it&#x27;s the clear winner -- it&#x27;s practically impossible to find an i7 in 13 inches with 16 gigs of RAM. And it&#x27;s great to support a Linux-friendly company. One minor problem was that I do occasionally need Windows (for Powerpoint), but I guess I could have installed it. The real reason I didn&#x27;t go for it (and I&#x27;m about to betray a character weakness here) is that I saw it in real life and... I thought it was too ugly. Didn&#x27;t suit my vanity. And I couldn&#x27;t get on with that weird screen hinge. Still, my mate Hansel wrote an excellent review of the Galago, check it out here: <a href="http://aychedee.com/2014/01/04/galago-ultrapro-review/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aychedee.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;01&#x2F;04&#x2F;galago-ultrapro-review&#x2F;</a><p>- the other sane choice would have been a thinkpad. As this thread overwhelmingly proves, they have an excellent reputation, and should work well under Linux. My dad has one, and I can confirm that they feel really well built, and are nice and light. Only real tech problem is the X240 is limited to 8GB. That and the seriously weird touchpads, which depress down about 5mm with a big ker-chunk, they feel like they were designed for use by children on a button-bashing arcade machine to launch nukes or something. But I can imagine getting used to them. Also briefly considered getting an X230 off ebay, because 16GB, but screen resolution was seriously weak.<p>- another option would have been a Dell. They have a good rep, and good linux support, but the XPS13 suffers from the same problem of the 8GB limit, and the XPS15 was too big -- a friend of mine tells me it feels a little heavy, and that the lid feels a bit feeble -- so the build quality isn&#x27;t as good as the thinkpads. The 15 would be a good option for someone prepared to carry something a little heavier tho, 16 gigs and excellent resolution.<p>- at this point I started casting around for other solutions, and in the end I did something completely irrational. I came across the Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus, and despite its stupid name I kinda fell for it. So I&#x27;ve impulse-bought one on ebay for about $1000 (new). And this despite the fact that Ubuntu is absolutely not ready for HiDPI screens, and that all the info on getting Linux installed on them sound like it&#x27;s a nightmare, and that it&#x27;s just never going to work. But, heck, I feel like Linux on the Desktop is <i>meant</i> to be hard, and not quite work. And it&#x27;s SO SHINY! <a href="http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Samsung-ATIV-Book-9-Plus.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mobiletechreview.com&#x2F;notebooks&#x2F;Samsung-ATIV-Book-...</a>