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'Being homeless is better than working for Amazon'

62 pointsby winstonsmithover 10 years ago

9 comments

bluedinoover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting to see how certain jobs are thought of over the years.<p>Working in an Amazon warehouse is a pretty average blue-collar job these days. You&#x27;re a slave to the time clock, you&#x27;re on your feet all day, walking miles and miles, but other than that there&#x27;s no real extremes. In every job you&#x27;re expected to get a # of parts out per hours or ship so many package.<p>But the good thing about an Amazon warehouse, is you&#x27;re not standing next to a heat-treating oven, sweating your bag off. You&#x27;re not mixing dangerous chemicals that could poison you and requires you to wear an uncomfortable ventilation system or suit.<p>There are no fiberglass matting slivers to get in your arms or eyes. There are no 20 ton presses that will crush you in the blink of an eye. You&#x27;re not outside in the freezing cold. You&#x27;re not standing around in a meat freezer hacking away at a side of beef with a giant knife.<p>Is it the greatest job in the world? No, but there are a limited supply of those and competition for them is very high. Is it worst job? Far from it. And 30 years ago it would have been considered pretty cushy.
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shaftoeover 10 years ago
They sound like a nut with a grievance.<p>The story is inconsistent. Begging and &quot;writing&quot; is morally superior to being &quot;working poor?&quot; And then they cannot find any other job with their degrees because of their grievance with Amazon? And then they like being homeless because they used to work at a camping store?<p>They cannot accept charity from family but they beg in front of a Whole Foods?<p>If this is the poster child for the anti-Amazon movement, Amazon has nothing to worry about.
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ig1over 10 years ago
While there&#x27;s certainly an issue around working conditions at Amazon and more broadly with the US social safety net this story doesn&#x27;t feel &quot;real&quot;.<p>A quick google reveals the authors bio &quot;I taught ESL in South Korea for more than two years, traveled Asia, been around the Caribbean and zig-zagged the U.S. I worked at the Chicago Board Options Exchange and the Chicago Brauhau.&quot; - she also has a degree in Journalism with a focus on news editorial<p>It seems hard to believe someone with that background would be unable to figure out things like food stamps.
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Maroover 10 years ago
1. She went to school to get a not very competitive degree (journalism?) and unfortunately took out loans to pay for it. It seems she couldn&#x27;t pay it back, because later she says &quot;my credit is wrecked&quot;.<p>2. It turns out she and her combination of a degree is useless, because she ended up working at Amazon packing boxes.<p>3. She hated her job, so she ended up quiting. Good!<p>4. I respect that even after it&#x27;s not her problem, she stands up against poor working conditions at Amazon by writing articles.<p>5. It&#x27;s unclear why she can&#x27;t find a job after Amazon, or why she is homeless. She writes: &quot;I’ve applied for many jobs, and any prospective employer that runs a Google search of my name can see my discontent with my last employer.&quot; But that&#x27;s bogus, I think many employers outside the tech sector will not Google you.<p>6. The ending of the article really falls apart for me. She says &quot;I learned to live without money and without a home ... I know how to live outside. I refuse to live within oppressive walls.&quot; But then she says &quot;I need cash and an opportunity. Anything!&quot;, and later &quot;I became a capitalist.&quot;<p>The takeaway of the article for me is that there are probably issues around Amazon&#x27;s working conditions and that the writer of this article has made some bad decisions that she needs to work out and stop blaming Amazon and whoever else.
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kaybeover 10 years ago
I can&#x27;t help it, as a European I&#x27;m always shocked how these things can happen in a rich country like the US. Is it inability to navigate the system (a problem by itself) or is the US social system really that non-existant? I know at least some of the arguments, it just never fails to shock me. (Issues with the behaviour of the writer aside.)
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yllusover 10 years ago
&quot;I became a capitalist. I flew a sign to escape harrowing conditions in Oregon and I arrived in Seattle with nothing. When I landed I saw green. I created carefully crafted signs with cardboard and a Sharpie and, just like that, I was making money again.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s a really curious statement. I suppose that she is succeeding in a form of marketing, and the value she&#x27;s producing is an emotional salve on those that are wealthier than her and wish to help out or assuage their own guilt?
ape4over 10 years ago
I&#x27;m sure Amazon is already thinking about how to replace &quot;pickers&quot; with robots.
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tsothaover 10 years ago
Even better would be finding a different job.
blhackover 10 years ago
If she is making more money being homeless than she was when she was working at Amazon, why hasn&#x27;t she moved back into an apartment?<p>&gt;I have been published in a scholarly journal and a social-justice oriented website.<p>Ah.<p>&gt;My wallet does not contain a single bill. I need glasses. I need winter clothes. I need cash and an opportunity. Anything!<p>Anything except making $13 an hour taking things off of shelves? I mean...c&#x27;mon. Glasses, winter clothes etc. aren&#x27;t <i>that</i> expensive. Check out coastal.com, go to goodwill.<p>Maybe that just doesn&#x27;t make as good of a story for &quot;social justice oriented websites&quot;
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