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HIV evolving 'into milder form'

101 pointsby GotAnyMegadethover 10 years ago

11 comments

thanatosminover 10 years ago
Reading the original paper, they compare Botswana and S Africa and find a correlation between seroprevalence and viral load. There is not good evidence to suggest this is causative however--this may be, for example, that as you get to higher frequencies of cases differently aged people are more likely to be infected and show different viral loads. A direct causal link between these two factors doesn't make a huge amount of sense, because (AFAIK) HIV is thought to sample all viral sequences within each host (so population-level selection should represent individual-level variation).
arsover 10 years ago
That&#x27;s pretty typical for parasites (which include viruses).<p>Killing your host is never a good idea, the best parasites cause minimal disruption to their host.<p>All animals and humans are infected with countless parasites, but you never notice. For example <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_mite" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Face_mite</a> (don&#x27;t scratch).
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nsajkoover 10 years ago
<a href="http://www.davidbrin.com/givingplague.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.davidbrin.com&#x2F;givingplague.html</a> A very nice story of Brin based on the notion of a process of infectious agents &quot;watering down&quot; over time.
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BrainInAJarover 10 years ago
&quot;In theory, if we were to let HIV run its course then we would see a human population emerge that was more resistant to the virus than we collectively are today - HIV infection would eventually become almost harmless.&quot;<p>Because millions (or billions) of people would die, leaving only those with resistance.
pistleover 10 years ago
&gt; &quot;Twenty years ago the time to Aids was 10 years, but in the last 10 years in Botswana that might have increased to 12.5 years, a sort of incremental change, but in the big picture that is a rapid change.&quot;<p>20 years ago, the ARV&#x27;s and mixes weren&#x27;t what they were 10 years ago and awareness + access to therapy also changed. Therapy initiation guidelines changed - which would directly impact time to AIDS.<p>Throw that statement away in relation to the meaning of the study results - except if this statement is there, it raises a concern about bias or mistakes in the study due to an insufficiently rigorous handling of the data and contexts&#x2F;meaning.
guard-of-terraover 10 years ago
I wonder if infecting a person with AIDS with milder form of HIV will make them better.
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ruairinewmanover 10 years ago
Surely this process means that HIV is just as capable of evolving into something even more lethal over time, given the right environment? Given the relatively closed environment of a country like North Korea (for example) where diversity is restricted, its evolutionary path may take a different route than that observed by the University of Oxford research team?
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fenomasover 10 years ago
As is so often the case, William Gibson came pretty close to predicting this:<p><a href="http://everything2.com/title/J.D.+Shapely" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;everything2.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;J.D.+Shapely</a>
astralshipover 10 years ago
strikes me that human immune systems are working collaboratively in the case of HIV
billpgover 10 years ago
What viruses &quot;want&quot; is to reproduce. Killing you is an unfortunate unplanned side effect.<p>If only we could negotiate and agree to allow them to reproduce and not kill us, we&#x27;d all get along much better.
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kornakiewiczover 10 years ago
Good guy HIV.