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What’s the Matter with Boston Tech?

60 pointsby boynamedsueover 10 years ago

14 comments

jhallenworldover 10 years ago
What&#x27;s the difference between MA and CA? How about that CA has banned non-compete agreements, but MA has not. There was a proposal to ban them earlier this year, but it fizzled.<p>AIM (entrenched industry lobbying firm) seems happy about it, anyway: <a href="http://blog.aimnet.org/aim-issueconnect/topic/non-compete-agreements" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.aimnet.org&#x2F;aim-issueconnect&#x2F;topic&#x2F;non-compete-ag...</a><p><a href="http://www.aimnet.org/employer-issues-center/Non_Compete_Agreements.cfm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aimnet.org&#x2F;employer-issues-center&#x2F;Non_Compete_Agr...</a><p>&quot;Proponents often cite California as a warmer, magical place because it bans non-compete agreements. We note however that;  California allows non-competes in certain business circumstances and many California-based companies use non-competes in those circumstances.  Many California based companies use non-compete agreements in other states where they operate, including Massachusetts.&quot; Nice...<p>Let&#x27;s see who&#x27;s represented on their board: Intel, IBM, EMC, GE, Raytheon, Microsoft, Harpoon Brewery? <a href="http://www.aimnet.org/about-aim/board.cfm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aimnet.org&#x2F;about-aim&#x2F;board.cfm</a>
baydinalexover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s seed funding. The seed funding ecosystem is a vortex of death in Boston.<p>We (Boomerang) moved to San Francisco after going 0&#x2F;34 with Boston investors. It took less than 30 days to have our full round complete after we got here, and that was in 2010, before the seed market even started to feel frothy.<p>All the Boston talk about how &quot;a good company can get funded here just as well as it can in San Francisco; they just fund a lot of crappy companies out there&quot; is nonsense. Over half of those 34 Boston investors have paid us for Boomerang.<p>The ideal company for a Boston tech investor is one gunning to be the #6 company in an already-established market, run by a 45-year-old dude who graduated from HBS then worked for a 55-year-old VC&#x27;s former company for a few years. If you don&#x27;t fit that profile, you need to be rich enough to not need funding, you need to have a way to get yourself to $5m in revenue without outside funding, or you need to move.<p>There were a lot of young, energetic founders working on exciting stuff alongside us back in 2010-2011. I can think of one or two who still are. Some of the rest moved. Most shut down their companies and went to work for a 45-year-old HBS graduate building the 6th most successful company in some already-well-established vertical.
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thesausagekingover 10 years ago
Odd article. If Boston is this amazing-but-quiet center of innovation, why not feature founders and innovators ?<p>Besides the founders of Kayak and Runkeeper, everyone else interviewed worked for a co-working space (tim row), a university (Abby Fichtner), a consulting group (Michael Davies), or a large company like Microsoft (Annmarie Levins).
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noname123over 10 years ago
Big shout out to Kendall Square. Just started working here. Tangential but curious, any peeps who work at Kendall Square have any good food trucks, restaurants, meetup&#x27;s nearby to try out?<p>I like Clover&#x2F;Chipotle, Sebastian&#x27;s is too expensive and co-op food court is still shut-down :(<p>Are there any cool meetup&#x27;s to check out at Microsoft NERD center or at CIC? Or any ideas about the hack&#x2F;reduce, enterprise data science hacker-space vs. the one in central square which seems to be more DIY. Also any cool talk series&#x2F;clubs I should check out at MIT, the only one I know is the 2600 meetup and also their computational biology talks at STATA.<p>And has anyone been to the Kendall Sq. ice rink or any art-house film meetup&#x27;s at Kendall Sq. Cinema or other recreational stuff nearby?<p>EDIT: re: original post, I agree largely with the author&#x27;s impression of the local scene not heavily invested in &quot;progressive consumer-tech&quot; and want to keep it that way! The Bay Area isn&#x27;t for everybody and it isn&#x27;t certainly for me, so I hope that not every city try to emulate that and try to find their niche.
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kylequestover 10 years ago
Conservative VCs that feel comfortable investing in the &quot;sure thing&quot; or defensible&#x2F;patented tech (it&#x27;s their money, so they are free not to invest it :-)) and mostly conservative companies (noncompete agreements are just one of the indicators).<p>Kendall Square is ok if you are a young kid (in school or just out of school).<p>The Microsoft NERD Center IS a good place to host tech events&#x2F;meetups.
bcardarellaover 10 years ago
Money. Unfortunately VCs and Angels in Boston have a very poor reputation for taking risk on startups. Instead they want to invest in companies that have already proven their model or just need money to scale.<p>Public transportation. I know that every city dweller thinks their city has poor public transportation options. Let me tell you, Boston has you beat. When we take into consideration the perceived importance of the city and how difficult it is to get from one side to another.<p>Insider&#x27;s club. Unfortunately Boston still has a pretty strong insider&#x27;s club that affects most aspects of business in town.<p>Racism. Boston has a bad history of racism. For a city that prides itself on being so progressive this is a black eye that I personally don&#x27;t feel the city has gotten over.<p>Weather. I know that this point was dismissed in another comment but it just isn&#x27;t about the winter. The two months of cold grey sky rain in the early Spring is curshingly depressing.<p>Lack of a true &quot;anchor&quot; tech company. There really is no large tech company that draws others in or produces talent. Many here think that Hubspot will be that company, that remains to be seen.<p>San Francisco envy. It is pretty pervasive here. We call it the Boston Brain Drain. The perception is that Boston is just a stepping stone on a developer&#x27;s career. &quot;I learn in Boston I work in SF!&quot;<p>Cost of living. I realize that SF and NY are more expensive but Boston I suspect that you get more for your money in those cities. In Boston $3k&#x2F;month will get you into a triplex in Somerville with no T access. Living <i>in</i> Boston is out of the question for many making below six figures. (also for many making above six figures)<p>Cost to run a business. I can count on my hand the number of neighborhoods in the city that have office space below $30&#x2F;sq-ft. Nearly everything in the city is North of $40&#x2F;sq-ft. And for that you get some run down Class B office space that was recently bought by a Class A property company that wants high-end Class B rates. And they are all pushing $1&#x2F;sq-ft increase per year. With nearly $2&#x2F;sq-ft utilities. Startups looking for private office space have a difficult time finding any in Boston.<p>All this to say that the medical industry does not have this same talent retention problem. What keeps the world&#x27;s best doctors in Boston but pushes away the world&#x27;s best software engineers? If Boston wants to make up ground on SF (and even NY at this point) I think starting with this question might lead to potential solutions.
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bceagleover 10 years ago
There are a few comments here that imply the problem with Boston is the weather or culture. That is way off base. Of course there are people that hate the weather or don&#x27;t like the culture, but there are just as many people that love it.<p>Also, while Boston doesn&#x27;t have a huge consumer success story, the startup and tech scene is thriving. Just spend a couple months going to meetup groups or other events like the CIC Venture Cafe and you will understand.<p>The problem as the author alludes to is not with starting companies, but growing them. More specifically, there is no doubt funding for consumer-based companies is easier in the bay area. It really bummed me out to see Technical Machines and Platiq move to the San Fran.<p>That said, I do think things can and will eventually change. Paul English and others have started to heavily invest in consumer based businesses in Boston. I believe like he does that other than the issues getting funding, there is no reason why consumer based businesses can&#x27;t thrive here.
freyrover 10 years ago
Why would I, as an engineer, choose Silicon Valley over Boston? It&#x27;s a petty reason, perhaps, but tech workers on the west coast enjoy prestige.<p>In Boston, you rub shoulders with a large population of well-heeled management consultants, bankers, and corporate lawyers whose annual bonus might be several multiples of your total compensation (this exists everywhere, of course, but the banking and management consulting industries are more conspicuous in the northeast). There&#x27;s also a huge medical community and many doctors in the area. These constitute the high-status jobs, and unfortunately tech falls way lower on the social ladder.
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Agathosover 10 years ago
Boston Tech? Didn&#x27;t it move to Cambridge and change its name?
owlyover 10 years ago
voltage coffee. clover. tatte. mead hall. etc.
escapefrombover 10 years ago
The problem with Boston tech is having to live in Boston.<p>I recently heard someone describe Boston as &quot;racist San Francisco with worse weather&quot;.
inthewoodsover 10 years ago
Nothing.
michaelochurchover 10 years ago
California&#x27;s non-compete ban (see jhallenworld&#x27;s post on the issue) is huge. California also bans &quot;we own your side projects&quot; clauses, which is major. Even if, on technicalities, the states may not be very different, the perception is strong enough to scare people into California, a state that otherwise wouldn&#x27;t have more than weather and inertia.<p>One of my posts is already linked here, by mwhite, and my perception hasn&#x27;t changed. I don&#x27;t see progressivism in Boston companies. I see smart people but old thinking. Then again, the old thinking (reinvented using fratty Young Republican types who get funded) is invading the Valley.<p>I&#x27;m glad to see that Boston is taking on Real Technology. That&#x27;s great. Honestly, if something can be run by Lucas Duplan or Evan Spiegel, it probably shouldn&#x27;t be done and it certainly shouldn&#x27;t be funded at the expense of something legitimate. All that said, one of my gripes with Real Technology (and with Boston) is that there tends to be a militant PhD Bigotry in it. I get that advanced degrees are more common than pigeons out there, but it&#x27;s a bit irksome to be treated like a junior just because one doesn&#x27;t have an doctoral degree.<p>I mean, look, I&#x27;m not without cognitive ability. If I weren&#x27;t a public figure, I could lie and say I was a Stanford PhD in CS and would easily pull it off. Almost everyone would believe me (except for Stanford CS graduates, who could call me out on campus specifics or professors). I have zero interest in lying about my background or history; my point is that I&#x27;m smart enough that I could get away with it and hold up. So the lack of a credential shouldn&#x27;t matter, yet I&#x27;ve had more than one Boston company (when interviewing with them, in the past) tell me that I wasn&#x27;t a <i>real</i> data scientist or a real quant because I didn&#x27;t have a PhD. Never mind that I am so much smarter than the person who set these little rules in place that I could claim that I invented the letter &quot;Q&quot; and they&#x27;d believe me.<p>Real Technology can afford PhD Bigotry now because there isn&#x27;t much of it and (unlike the consumer web space, which is mostly stupid and product-driven but takes more chances on people) it can be picky, so long as it doesn&#x27;t try to expand. But these academics and ex-academics need to realize that if they want to be relevant again instead of falling into another AI Winter, they&#x27;ve got to drop the pedigree bigotry.<p>Ok, that last rant has more to do with technology in general than with Boston. I guess I&#x27;m here to say that I&#x27;m very glad to see Boston&#x27;s high valuation applied to <i>substance</i> getting it some press. I want Boston&#x27;s tech scene to succeed. Anything that can compete with the Valley deserves unwavering support. In order to do so, however, it has got to enter the 21st century.
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hnriotover 10 years ago
Boston&#x27;s losing tech startups to SF because the weather here is drastically better (well, not today...)<p>All other things being equal, we have better beer, more sunshine, a bay that doesn&#x27;t turn to ice in winter, an airport you can fly in and out of reliably without the constant storm closings, faster public transport and of course California Girls (1) :)<p>1. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuENHA1l_K0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=vuENHA1l_K0</a>
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