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SolrCloud, Jepsen, and Flaky Networks

48 pointsby chatmanover 10 years ago

4 comments

mjbover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s amazing how much the Jepsen posts have raised the bar around distributed database testing. &quot;Passes Jepsen&quot; seems to be rapidly becoming required for open-source distributed databases. It&#x27;s a great improvement, and I hope Kyle is really proud of the influence he has had. A big part of the success is that the writing itself was engaging, entertaining and accessible without being patronizing.<p>Having said that, Jepsen is far from a full exercise of all of the safety properties of a distributed database. There are many kinds of bugs (both protocol bugs and implementation bugs) that wouldn&#x27;t be detected by these kinds of tests. Passing Jepsen is necessary, but not sufficient. Even without covering truly Byzantine behaviors, real-world networks have many failure modes that Jepsen doesn&#x27;t address.
cjbprimeover 10 years ago
And @aphyr&#x27;s twitter response:<p>So I&#x27;m delighted by <a href="http://lucidworks.com/blog/call-maybe-solrcloud-jepsen-flaky-networks/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lucidworks.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;call-maybe-solrcloud-jepsen-flaky...</a> … but tbh &quot;may get a successful response for a document that is lost&quot; is actually a CP failure.<p>-- <a href="https://twitter.com/aphyr/status/542820272626491392" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;aphyr&#x2F;status&#x2F;542820272626491392</a>
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chatmanover 10 years ago
Here&#x27;s the original Jepsen post on ElasticSearch for reference: <a href="http://aphyr.com/posts/317-call-me-maybe-elasticsearch" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aphyr.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;317-call-me-maybe-elasticsearch</a>
altcognitoover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m out of the loop. They are using Carly Rae Jespen&#x27;s marketing images in the background to promote their open source network testing tool?
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