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FoundationDB and the New NoSQL

29 pointsby rentamirover 10 years ago

6 comments

jcrover 10 years ago
Previous discussion from a few days ago:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8729420" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8729420</a><p><pre><code> Databases at 14.4Mhz () 292 points by chton 3 days ago 85 comments</code></pre>
lclarkmichalekover 10 years ago
What a shitty article.<p>&gt; As interesting as these new developments–called “NoSQL databases”–were, though, only bleeding-edge startups and a tiny handful of other dreamers were really taking them seriously.<p>What is this shit? Seriously, wtf. I mean, sure, Mongo saw a lot of use among the mentally challenged, but a _lot_ of big companies have _big_ NoSQL clusters in production. Hell, according to datastax, a quarter of the Fortune 100 use Cassandra..<p>&gt; &lt;couple of tweets about how non-AD databases are a bit shit&gt;<p>&gt; MongoDB is not ACID compliant. Neither is Cassandra. Neither is Riak. Neither is Redis. Etc etc etc.<p>The fact that C*, riak, etc aren&#x27;t ACID isn&#x27;t a point against them; it&#x27;s a calculated tradeoff. It&#x27;s only a problem when they are advertised as being ACID, and I&#x27;ll happily join you in condemning them if they do call themselves ACID when they are not<p>We are seeing the rise of &quot;NewSQL&quot; (that is, datastores with transactions), but that does _not_ mean the death of NoSQL, and it does _not_ automatically imply superiority to NoSQL. It&#x27;s about choice, and that is fucking awesome. Stop trying to induce some twisted total ordering on each consistency model. It doesn&#x27;t exist. As long as a consistency model is clearly documented, accurately implemented (yeah, I know, I can dream), then there is no innate superiority. Stop trying to create one.
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djtriptychover 10 years ago
Fun fact; the FoundationDB founding team and Yext founding team are part of the same high school CLASS of about 400 people. TJHSST &#x27;98. I was a classmate (now a lowly ex-Googler working on a group communication platform).
virmundiover 10 years ago
Please take a look at ArangoDB. It has joins, documents and graph capabilities. It also has transactions against multiple documents within a collection.<p>See arangodb.com.
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jszymborskiover 10 years ago
fwiw UnQLite is an ACID NoSQL serverless&#x2F;embeded database<p><a href="http://unqlite.org/intro.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;unqlite.org&#x2F;intro.html</a>
IndianAstronautover 10 years ago
Couchdb is a NoSQL store that is ACID.
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