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Ask HN: How large can a web dev agency get? Is it a good business model?

3 pointsby biznerdover 10 years ago
Most web dev agencies seem to be under 20 employees. Is that the limit of the business model? Arguably, this is basically a small business.<p>Exceptions could be companies like 37signals, which develop their own proprietary products. Successful ones seem to be rare.<p>It seems many dev shops are going this route. So if you have the capital, wouldn&#x27;t it be smarter to start with product development?

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kevanover 10 years ago
Lecture 20 of How to Start a Startup[1] touched on this.<p>&gt; In the beginning of a company, there is no management. This actually works really well. Before 20 and 25 employees, most companies are structured with everyone reporting to founder. It&#x27;s totally flat. That&#x27;s really good. That&#x27;s what you want because at that stage, it&#x27;s the optimal structure for productivity.<p>&gt; What tricks people is when lack of structure fails, it fails all at once. What works totally fine at 20 employees is disastrous at 30.<p>This is pure speculation, but I can imagine that this limits the size of many companies. Most web dev agencies I&#x27;m aware of weren&#x27;t founded as hyper-growth startups that are willing to push through that barrier.<p>[1] <a href="http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec20/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;startupclass.samaltman.com&#x2F;courses&#x2F;lec20&#x2F;</a>
mtmailover 10 years ago
Pixelpark Germany (<a href="http://www.publicis.com/capabilities/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.publicis.com&#x2F;capabilities&#x2F;</a>) started 1991 and scaled to 500 full-time employees around 2009. Currently claims 800 (not sure how many full-time). They even IPO-ed. No product on their own, it&#x27;s still doing web-solutions for customers only. It just covers full brand management, research, SEO&#x2F;SEM etc as well now.
danielsju6over 10 years ago
You see under 20&#x2F;30 employees in a lot of businesses; the reason (IMHO) is that this is a natural choke point. Any more than 20 employees and the principle has to delegate, hire HR, management, and develop processes—it&#x27;s a natural point at which a single leader cannot scale and a business has to transition into &quot;a company&quot;.
baristaGeekover 10 years ago
If you&#x27;re located in a developing country clients will literally &quot;rain&quot; to you. It&#x27;s a good business because the ROI is really high, but it&#x27;s more of a &quot;red ocean&quot;. In the short term it can work, but if you really want to start a business, shouldn&#x27;t you be thinking in the long term?
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gexlaover 10 years ago
The Nerdery is quite big.<p><a href="http://nerdery.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nerdery.com&#x2F;</a><p>According to their site, their headcount is 528 developers and 52 dogs.