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The Future of Meat Is Plant-Based Burgers

113 pointsby zbravoover 10 years ago

13 comments

cwbrandsmaover 10 years ago
Where I live, range cattle are everywhere. You go to the mountains and desert, just everywhere. Actually, we could raise a lot more here. What we can&#x27;t raise easily is crops. There is too much rock in the ground, you can&#x27;t plow without dynamite. Plus there is little water (that desert part). Pretty much every field with crops is irrigated -- constantly.<p>Yet, somehow, cows and sheep do just fine. Sometimes you have to bring in water, but that is NOTHING compared to what it takes to grow crops here.<p>I will also add one other item to the mix...don&#x27;t call it burger. I will eat a vegetarian meal, it does not bother me at all. Just don&#x27;t call it chicken or beef. In fact, don&#x27;t try to be those things, just make good food without meat and I will eat it. But if you tell me it is beaf and it isn&#x27;t, I WILL notice, and I won&#x27;t be happy.
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discardoramaover 10 years ago
As a vegetarian, I&#x27;m looking forward to more products from Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods.<p>One of the criticisms people have is: it doesn&#x27;t taste like real meat. To that, I&#x27;ll say: tastes change. Sure, you (presumably of European descent) and your ancestors have been eating meat for 1000 years; but look at the spread of Indian&#x2F;Chinese&#x2F;Mexican places; your ancestors never had those foods! Heck, &quot;chicken tikka&quot; was voted as the &#x27;national dish&#x27; of Britain, when a 100 years ago hardly anyone had heard of it!<p>More people would be vegetarian if restaurants had it as a decent option. Hopefully, these new products will encourage restaurants to expand their veggie menus.
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murbard2over 10 years ago
The part about E.Coli in burger reminds me of a very unfortunate state of affair. I like my burgers rare, they just taste much better this way. I eat them that way because at my age (32) the risk isn&#x27;t too great.<p>There is a way to make ground beef extremely safe for consumption, without cooking it to oblivion (a.k.a FDA guidelines). That technique is irradiation. Unfortunately, people are very squeamish about the idea of having their meat irradiated, and mandatory labeling laws mean that it&#x27;s very hard to find irradiated meat.<p>As a result, people get into the habit of eating overcooked burgers, which further reduces the potential demand for irradiated meat, etc. Shame :(
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jasonisaliveover 10 years ago
It&#x27;s a shame to see the conversation here bypassing the real issue, which isn&#x27;t taste, technological wow-factor, production efficiency, environmentalism, or entrepreneur chic. The real issue is animal welfare.<p>Remember, every time you eat meat, you are actually eating the body of a former living creature, equipped with eyes, ears, a nose, a tongue, and a complex nervous system capable of integrating its sensations, of feeling pain, fear, and depression. Rememeber, you have no way of guaranteeing (and in fact can actually be almost always certain) that this animal&#x27;s life wasn&#x27;t short, miserable, and didn&#x27;t culminate with an utterly barbaric episode of fear and torture - and then rapid, mechanical dissembly into anonymous pieces, shipped off to your local supermarket or burger shop, its brutal, dirty provenance hidden by a facde of bright and happy advertising. Remember, every time you eat eggs, eat dairy or buy leather, you are participating and endorsing the same thing: industrial scale mistreatment and torture of animals.<p>Watch the video linked in the article (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRS-kzgoRq0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZRS-kzgoRq0</a>) and remember, if you live in the US, the USDA is a captured regulator, completely toothless to prevent animal torture in slaughterhouses - in fact it simply assists in declaring whatever practices the food industry wants to use as humane. Remember, the majority of states are busy passing laws to make it illegal to film undercover videos in CAFOs and abattoirs, so no one can see what is actually going on (because if people did really see it and really understood they would be disgusted to their core.)<p>If you live in any other country in the world, the situation is either much worse, or a little, but not much, better.<p>If you believe that humans should live compassionately and avoid inflicting unnecessary suffering on other feeling, emotional creatures, then go vegan. Not vegetarian, vegan. Don&#x27;t wait - do it today, not tomorrow. It&#x27;s the only way that a person can look themselves in the mirror and be truly proud of what they see.
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gdubsover 10 years ago
I grew up hearing that a chicken nugget was filled with a lot of stuff you wouldn&#x27;t expect it to be filled with. After seeing the &#x27;pink slime&#x27; video, I often wonder why fast food chains wouldn&#x27;t just use plant-based alternatives. Surely growing plants is cheaper than raising livestock. And if it&#x27;s not, than it&#x27;s at an enormous moral cost in how we treat our livestock.<p>At minimum, it&#x27;s _crazy_ to me that McDonald&#x27;s does not have a veggie burger on the menu. Why?
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arsover 10 years ago
I tried the product mentioned here &quot;Beyond Meat&quot;. The texture was perfect. The taste was terrible - worse even than vegetarian meat alternatives (that don&#x27;t have the right texture, but at least taste good).<p>I only tried it once.<p>I see they have some new products now, maybe I&#x27;ll try those.
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patrickg_zillover 10 years ago
No, the future of meat is... more meat.<p>Really, the Saul Alinsky-style, revolution talk and identity politics are simply not needed when you are making an alternative to a product.
jemfinchover 10 years ago
Reading this article made me think of Terry Bisson&#x27;s &quot;They&#x27;re Made Out of Meat&quot;, particularly apropos the conversation earlier today about the Fermi Paradox.<p><a href="http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.terrybisson.com&#x2F;page6&#x2F;page6.html</a>
Retricover 10 years ago
Rather than focus on 100% plant based burgers I think we could go a long way by replacing say 10% of the meat with plants and working your way up. The goal being a small enough change that you don&#x27;t notice a difference.
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leovanderover 10 years ago
My girlfriend is vegetarian and she swears by Quorn. She had me convinced when I tried their [Quorn Roast](<a href="http://www.quorn.us/products/44/turky-roast" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quorn.us&#x2F;products&#x2F;44&#x2F;turky-roast</a>). I wouldn&#x27;t say its on par with real meat texture, but hell of a lot better than other veggie products.
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akurilinover 10 years ago
What kind of impact would fully switching to this kind of meat would have on hypertrophy?
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pietroover 10 years ago
Why not just skip burgers? There&#x27;s no way this can be healthier or more delicious than fresh vegetables.
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tracker1over 10 years ago
I had the worst burger I&#x27;ve ever had about a month ago... It was a delivery place via grubhub and was only up a couple of weeks... I&#x27;m fairly certain it was at least part vegetable protein, and was horrible. &quot;Garden Burgers&quot; are way better than what this was.<p>I don&#x27;t know if it was genuine or a sad experiment... beef wasn&#x27;t actually mentioned anywhere so I don&#x27;t know. The texture was weird and the taste was way off.<p>---<p>edit: Wow, voted down because I had a bad veggie burger experience? For the record, here it is..<p><a href="https://www.grubhub.com/phoenix/chef-efes-burgers/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.grubhub.com&#x2F;phoenix&#x2F;chef-efes-burgers&#x2F;</a>
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