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300 pounds needed for Shen to become BSD licensed

32 pointsby barbudorojoover 10 years ago
The objective to convert Shen to BSD is very near, a pledge of 300 pounds is needed:<p>https:&#x2F;&#x2F;groups.google.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;#!topic&#x2F;qilang&#x2F;fZZvPzCTVyA

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jnbicheover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve been extremely impressed by Shen, but have been holding off because of the license.<p>I&#x27;ll chip in a little and hope this pulls it toward BSD, at which point I&#x27;m willing to start investing in the infrastructure.
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jordighover 10 years ago
Oh, wow, functional programming without the oddities of Haskell syntax! I&#x27;m definitely intrigued.<p>What&#x27;s the current licensing situation? I would prefer a copyleft license, but if it already had a free license, I don&#x27;t really care if it&#x27;s similar to a BSD license or not.<p>Edit: Ah, found it:<p><a href="http://www.shenlanguage.org/license.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.shenlanguage.org&#x2F;license.html</a><p>Wow, this looks awful. It&#x27;s a vanity license with language that is very unfamiliar to me. Can a license declare something to be legal or not, isn&#x27;t that for judges to decide, not licenses? It has a bunch of weird clauses that I don&#x27;t want to try to understand, and Wikipedia claims this is GPL-incompatible and non-free software.<p>Yuck.<p>Yeah, ok, I&#x27;m kinda interested in a free license now.
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barbudorojoover 10 years ago
There are versions of Shen in javascript, sbcl, ruby, java, python, scheme, clojure and haskell (<a href="http://www.shenlanguage.org/download_form.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.shenlanguage.org&#x2F;download_form.html</a>)<p>The basic idea is to construct a kernel with 40 functions in such a way that the language is easily portable. With those 40 functions Shen is like a mixture of Lisp, prolog and typep racket.<p>I should like to see a version of Shen in Nim.
gue5tover 10 years ago
Why is money needed to achieve this licensing goal?
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listicover 10 years ago
They have a committee with the chairman, vice-chairman and deputy vice-chairman; but does anyone actually use this language?
hgaover 10 years ago
The BSD total has been achieved: <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/qilang/e4-PcL2K2WQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;groups.google.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;?hl=en#!topic&#x2F;qilang&#x2F;e4-PcL2...</a><p>tl;dr: in a couple of weeks version 17 will be released with the usual bug fixes etc. and BSD licensed.
briandearover 10 years ago
Why does it cost money to get BSD licensed? I am not sure -- who actually gets the money from this drive? For fundraising, there certainly isn&#x27;t a lot of information. I am very ignorant about this particular domain, so please excuse me!
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doublecover 10 years ago
For those wondering about Shen, this Strange Loop talk gives a taste of it <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcRBdSdO_U" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=lMcRBdSdO_U</a>
sp332over 10 years ago
What is this?
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artoover 10 years ago
<a href="http://www.shenlanguage.org/shenbsd.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.shenlanguage.org&#x2F;shenbsd.htm</a>