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GoFundMe Tops Kickstarter as World’s #1 Crowdfunding Platform

91 pointsby billclericoover 10 years ago

19 comments

johnkchowover 10 years ago
I work in a crowdfunding startup where GoFundMe is our #1 competitor. We knew they were dominating the personal causes space, but we didn&#x27;t know they were doing THIS well. I have much respect for their huge revenue&#x2F;growth while taking 0 VC money.<p>A huge part of their success is SEO&#x2F;PR (which is just a huge positive feedback loop). The product has great onboarding and they offer good customer support (guaranteed 15 min or less response times, which is important when you&#x27;re dealing with people dealing with tragedies from natural events). While I agree that the design is horrible, from a pure UX standpoint their site is extremely simple to use. The typical user is someone who&#x27;s not tech savvy, and they&#x27;re won&#x27;t care if they raise thousands of dollars.<p>Also, let&#x27;s get off our high tech horses here and stop blasting GFM. The reason why a lot of people here on HN haven&#x27;t heard of them is because we here most likely are educated and have good jobs. We can afford for whatever shit comes our way. Also, most donations come from personal networks i.e. friends and family members, while larger campaigns get additional support from local communities. Crowdfunding sites like Fundly and GFM really do affect people&#x27;s lives for the better.
bdcravensover 10 years ago
The only GoFundMe campaign&#x27;s I&#x27;ve truly been exposed to are scammy or digital panhandling. I know real people are using it legitimately, but that&#x27;s my experience. I remember distinctly there being virtually nowhere to report abuse, whereas on Kickstarter it&#x27;s pretty easy.
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Gyonkaover 10 years ago
Am I wrong in saying that the user base if different? It seems to me that kickstarter is more for products&#x2F;businesses, but from my limited experience I think gofundme is more of a humanitarian kind of crowdfunding.
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exhilarationover 10 years ago
My advice: if anyone needs to run an online fundraiser for a charity cause don&#x27;t use GoFundme, they charge 7.9% + 30 cents. Use <a href="http://www.youcaring.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youcaring.com</a> they charge 2.9% + 30 cents AND they show the transaction cost to your donors so they can opt to give more to cover it.
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kentfover 10 years ago
<a href="https://www.tilt.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tilt.com</a> is catching up fast.<p>- Free for admins, lowest fees (2.5%) for contributors.<p>- Focused on small, bite-sized group payments.<p>Business version: <a href="https://open.tilt.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;open.tilt.com</a> - Fully open source - Customizable<p>(Disclosure: It&#x27;s one of my babies)
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gyardleyover 10 years ago
Oddly-toned press release considering they serve completely different audiences and markets - it&#x27;s as if a product search engine started crowing that they&#x27;re bigger than a flight search engine. Yes, Kickstarter and GoFundMe are both great crowdfunding businesses, but they&#x27;re not really directly comparable.<p>I wonder why GoFundMe felt they needed to release this - perhaps they&#x27;ve decided to raise? Usually bootstrapped businesses keep their numbers to themselves.
themodelplumberover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve seen lots of local causes run through GoFundMe. A friend&#x27;s son desperately needing dental work, a local family losing a mother or father and needing help to pay medical expenses, and so on. I&#x27;ve found that some of the accounts are pretty hard to read, perhaps because it is not easy to consider the hardships that are occurring right in our neighborhood.
datashovelover 10 years ago
Never been to that site, but after only a brief review the site kind of gives me the creeps.<p>First I looked at &quot;Popular Now&quot;, and alot of the specific campaigns looked somewhat legitimate, then I looked at &quot;Near Me&quot; and after several pages of campaigns noticed:<p>&quot;85 - 96 of Thousands&quot;<p>Granted the campaigns appearing seem to be coming primarily from 2 major cities, but &quot;Thousands&quot;? People seem to be really catching on to this &quot;blind trust&quot; and giving internet. Several were just outrageous, for example asking for $25k, and in return providing only a fuzzy portrait photo, and 1 small paragraph explanation.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s just me, but IMO people asking for $25k for FREE should put a little more effort into the campaign info page.
corditeover 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve mostly seen GoFundMe used by individuals that are self-employed to other individuals (such as selling art), but they have a calamity happen, like their tablet or workstation breaking down. It&#x27;s never 40K-100K USD stuff, mostly under 5K.
woahover 10 years ago
Huh, I would&#x27;ve thought that Kickstarter was way above and beyond, given the amount of press they get. Perhaps it is because the things funded on Kickstarter get a lot of press themselves.
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tmuirover 10 years ago
I would guess the general difference in expectation of outcomes help GoFundMe, and hurt Kickstarter and IndieGogo.<p>Kickstarter has an extremely narrow market of early adopters of tech. They also have developed a reputation of late shipping, or completely failed projects. The more this continues, the less people will be inclined to contribute. Even though failure SHOULD be expected, as these are nascent businesses, it is not.<p>Contrast that with GoFundMe. Their market is anyone who is charitable. They&#x27;re not being sold on a product, they&#x27;re being sold on someones struggles&#x2F;death&#x2F;illness&#x2F;etc. If you are interested in donating to something, you don&#x27;t question its chances of success. You aren&#x27;t expecting anything in return. You are spending money to help someone else, not yourself (ignoring tax implications). In this case, if the donated amount fails to achieve the stated goal, barring fraud, there probably won&#x27;t be any backlash. Everyone knows you can&#x27;t cure diseases or other problems with money alone. Failure may not necessarily be expected, but is definitely more acceptable than in Kickstarter and Indiegogo&#x27;s cases.
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billclericoover 10 years ago
GoFundMe is an amazing story - 100% bootstrapped, based in San Diego, two awesome founders. (full disclosure, they&#x27;re one of our partners at WePay)
vpromanover 10 years ago
Curious to see some of the roots of GoFundMe? Check out Fanbox, previously known as the startup SMS.ac. That&#x27;s where the founders of GFM worked before they moved on to their current, highly successful venture. I imagine that&#x27;s where the startup bug bit them and they learned the value of being the middleman for transactions while leveraging social networks. SMS.ac was a middleman for SMS billing and a social network, generating text messages that were sent to users and receiving a share of the text charge from the cellular carriers. I worked with them there, crazy but good times.
mastermojoover 10 years ago
Whats gofundme&#x27;s business model? Do they take a percentage of donations?
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exacubeover 10 years ago
5% is a little high (it would be much lower if gofundme and company were non-profits), and i hate how high VISA&#x2F;other CC fees are.<p>I hate that 8% of all donations are gone through the cracks for profiteering.
zarothover 10 years ago
I always wonder, why do we need these middle men?
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iblaineover 10 years ago
If Kickstarter is Google then GoFundMe is Bing. While GoFundMe may claim to be better, none of my friends use it and I can&#x27;t find any reason to use it myself.
trhwayover 10 years ago
too bad South Park beat me to the Go Fund Yourself.
lukevover 10 years ago
I automatically ignore any GoFundMe campaign, after they let the contributions for Darren Wilson continue. Even when donors were making explicitly, unambiguously racist comments along with their donation.<p>If they had a policy of making no judgement at all on their campaigns that might be at least logically consistent, but given that they (by official policy) shut down campaigns related to pro-choice fundraising, it is clear that they have a systematic set of values which I do not share.<p>Given that a funding platform is explicitly designed to empower activist groups, and that they clearly support a certain racist, conservative type of group to a much higher degree, I believe it to be unethical to support them in any way.
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