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Is it annoying to have non-hackers on HN?

8 pointsby avni000over 10 years ago
As HN becomes more popular and mainstream, how do hackers feel about having more non-hackers on the site - favorable because it provides an opportunity to teach or irritating because it changes the dynamics and intent?

7 comments

jgeorgeover 10 years ago
Non-hackers who want to be hackers have to learn somewhere&#x2F;somehow. Non-hackers that want to get information on technical subjects could do far worse than get their news here. Personally, I welcome anyone here as long as they understand the conversation here should remain technically focused.<p>I lament the people (&quot;hackers&quot; and &quot;non-hackers&quot; alike) that seem to try to convert HN into their other non-technical favorite discussion forum.
jsilenceover 10 years ago
As long as discussion stay focussed and commentors try to actually contribute valuable input I don&#x27;t care about their profession&#x2F;attitude.
firebonesover 10 years ago
Preemptive edit:<p>There must be something I don&#x27;t understand, because the thread cited below isn&#x27;t in the front page results if I&#x27;m logged in, but IS on the front page if I&#x27;m not logged in. So I will leave the post because of the points related to liberal arts, but rescind my voting conspiracy mindset.<p>=====<p>Take a look at this thread:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8914678" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8914678</a><p>It&#x27;s about reading, and literature. I commented on it when it was on the front page. Went back to view the thread later and it was nowhere in the first 600 results.<p>I don&#x27;t know why for sure yet, but it wouldn&#x27;t surprise me to learn that it had something to do with the liberal arts nature of the post offending some of the hardcore flag killers here.<p>Non-engineering disciplines may attract a significant number of down voters and haters that the answer to your question is, in the opinion of the masses and filtered through the editorial policy of the voting&#x2F;flagging system: yes.<p>I disagree. I think every field has its hacking contingent, and the point of liberal arts is to find breadth and interdisciplinary connection, which produces equal, if not richer, insights than narrow specialization.<p>So my answer is no, it&#x27;s not annoying to have non-hackers on HN. I&#x27;m here to learn and to form those connections across disciplines.<p>It is annoying to have shills, or black-and-white silo thinkers. But these are independent of the hacker&#x2F;non-hacker dimension.
godzillabrennusover 10 years ago
I came for the free beer but stayed for the physics lessons.
krappover 10 years ago
&#x27;non-hackers&#x27; is a pretty loaded term.<p>While I don&#x27;t have any doubt that more and more diverse users causes friction for those who prefer HN to cater to the sort of stories and culture they prefer, it&#x27;s worth mentioning that the site is about &#x27;anything that satisfies intellectual curiosity&#x27;, not <i>hacking</i> in any particular sense.<p>I&#x27;m not annoyed. Some of the most interesting stories i&#x27;ve seen here have had nothing to do with &#x27;hacking&#x27; at all, whatever that means.
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izolateover 10 years ago
Honestly, yes. But only if those non-hackers consist of people in industries I don&#x27;t look upon favorably: marketers, advertisers, recruiters.<p>I come to HN seeking primarily technical discussion. Although tech is my primary interest, if your area of interest is as nerdy as tech (science, for example), you&#x27;re more than welcome here in my eyes.
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subrat_routover 10 years ago
I have seen quite a good number of contributors here are non-hackers. As long as the post or comment stays relevant and constructive then it does not matter. Rather I have seen few hackers whose posts are nothing but quite arrogant and non constructive or a way to vent or show off.