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Groovy should have a clear governance structure

4 pointsby christopover 10 years ago

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vorgover 10 years ago
&gt; Is the name “Groovy” trademarked? If so, who owns it? How about the domain name? How is the decision making done? Who becomes committers?<p>Groovy 1.0 had a copyright message saying Groovy was a registered trademark of Codehaus. However, I couldn&#x27;t find it in the online U.S. trademark query service at the time, and in Groovy 1.5 the notice had been removed. When Groovy&#x27;s creator James Strachan left the project, he still refered to Groovy at Codehaus as the &quot;current reference implementation&quot; in his last ever mailing list posting.<p>Codehaus currently lists 5 people as &quot;despots&quot; [1] viz Jochen Theodorou, Guillaume Laforge, Paul King, Ben Walding, and Cedric Champeau. One of them, Laforge, has always claimed to be the &quot;Project Manager&quot; but recently started pitching himself as the &quot;creator&quot;. Another, Theodorou, claims to be the &quot;Tech Lead&quot;, although Laforge stopped using that title for Theodorou after Champeau was employed by SpringSource&#x2F;Pivotal 3 yrs ago. Another despot, Walding, is the Codehaus administrator who has nothing to do with Groovy, and Groovy is the only project that has him listed as a despot.<p>Groovy isn&#x27;t only losing its Pivotal funding but also its Codehaus repository soon: &quot;Codehaus hasn&#x27;t made an announcement yet, but contacted some of us privately so far. But they mentioned a mid-February deadline, after which <i>all</i> projects will have to have been migrated elsewhere. Everything hosted at Codehaus will disappear. JIRA, website, mailing-lists, Git&#x2F;SVN, Bamboo...&quot; [2] Some of the developers are promoting a new internet address [3] but I don&#x27;t know who controls it.<p>I&#x27;d agree that the ownership problems related to the brand, codebase, support, channels, and what not, makes the whole mess is a legal nightmare. Pivotal obviously decided simply terminating funding was more profitable than trying to split off a separate business and sell it all to someone else.<p>[1] <a href="https://xircles.codehaus.org/projects/groovy/members" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xircles.codehaus.org&#x2F;projects&#x2F;groovy&#x2F;members</a> [2] <a href="http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/GPars-Web-site-revolution-help-sought-tt5722181.html#a5722194" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com&#x2F;GPars-Web-site-revolution...</a> [3] <a href="http://www.groovy-lang.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.groovy-lang.org&#x2F;</a>