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Boycott websites that send you email with your password in clear text

11 pointsby imsaarover 15 years ago

8 comments

edmccaffreyover 15 years ago
&#62; Anybody sending you back your password in clear text is also storing it that way in their database<p>Incredibly ignorant statement. If it's encrypted in a reversible format then it's not cleartext. If it's being sent in a confirmation email, then it could even be stored as a one-way hash: password extracted from the form, inserted into email, hashed and stored (This is what WordPress, for example, does).<p>A case can be made against both of those procedures, but that is a separate issue from his statement being ignorant.
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vakselover 15 years ago
The key is to just use a different password on every site by employing a special password structure.<p>For example, for HN, you can use:<p>orycPASSWORDy<p>[2 last letters][2 first letters][master password][1 first letter]<p>Good idea to mix and match numbers in the master password for added security. So for HN it can be: orycpassword1y<p>The good thing is that you only need to remember a single password for all your sites, yet they are all different. And if you ever forget a password, you can figure out what it was by simply looking at the url.
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tdedeckoover 15 years ago
I don't think a boycott is the best way to proceed with this problem. For starters, I don't think you will get enough publicity to bring a boycott to critical mass. Secondly, I think it would be more useful and effective to send an email to the perpetrating website, inquiring or complaining about their password storage techniques. When customers/users complain, a good business will respond and attempt to resolve the problem.
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swolchokover 15 years ago
I posted a similar screed about iPhone/Twitter apps that send passwords in the clear or with broken encryption a few days ago: <a href="http://scott.wolchok.org/plaintext.html" rel="nofollow">http://scott.wolchok.org/plaintext.html</a> (HN post at <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=877460" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=877460</a>)<p>Not sure what is difference that made people care about this but not that, but open to enlightenment.
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imsaarover 15 years ago
I am glad I am not the only one who feel sending passwords email is a bad thing:<p><a href="http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/02/11/bad-form-companies-still-sending-my-passwords-via-email/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/02/11/bad-form-companies-st...</a><p>Thank you tomfakes for the comment.
jacquesmover 15 years ago
So, you're telling me I should boycott the tax office here ?<p>That'll go down real well with them. I think I'll skip this one.
imsaarover 15 years ago
At least record your protest or change your password to something not related to your real secret password.
fjabreover 15 years ago
Ummm. Google Apps does this.
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