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Symantec must pay $17M to Intellectual Ventures

38 pointsby paralelogramover 10 years ago

7 comments

jobuover 10 years ago
<i>&quot;IV was originally created as a &quot;patent defense fund,&quot; getting investment cash from big Silicon Valley companies like Google, Apple, and Cisco. Soon, IV moved its focus to patent enforcement, and the firm is generally disliked in Silicon Valley.&quot;</i><p>&quot;Disliked&quot; is certainly an understatement.<p>It&#x27;s interesting though, in all of the coverage of Intellectual Ventures nefarious court adventures I&#x27;ve never heard it reported that they started out as a patent defense fund. Is that really true?
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jaguar86over 10 years ago
Intellectual Ventures is a patent troll. They shouldn&#x27;t even exist. Laws must ban those organizations that merely collect patents and waiting to sue people. Creativity killing machines!!
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asn0over 10 years ago
Did Symantec try to challenge the &#x27;142 patent during this trial? Has this patent ever been challenged?<p>There&#x27;s so much prior art (procmail, sendmail, cc:Mail, UseNet, routing tables, and probably plenty more) I don&#x27;t see how this patent could survive a challenge.
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IvyMikeover 10 years ago
&gt; While jurors sided with Intellectual Ventures, they awarded the patent holder less than six percent of the $299 million its lawyers sought, according to a Symantec spokesperson. The verdict form indicates the company was also asking for ongoing royalty payments, which the jury rejected.<p>I&#x27;m having trouble reconciling $299 million with these patents, which appear to be gigantically obvious. The second patent, US6073142 A, appears to basically be a description of procmail circa 1990. I challenge anyone to figure out where the $299+ million idea was.
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Slartibreakfastover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m so sick of software patents. The solution seems pretty simple - the approval process for software patents should consist of running the idea past three people off of the street. If they say &quot;Well, duh...&quot; in response to being presented with a complex idea like &quot;Method for Storing Phone Number With a Name&quot; or &quot;Method for Buying Something by Clicking On It&quot; then you don&#x27;t get your freaking patent.
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zetong14over 10 years ago
i wonder how many of you still use non-free virus program on your personal computer
rajacombinatorover 10 years ago
This is why I rooted against the Seahawks.