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Nootropics aren't just for tech millionaires

30 pointsby geoffwooover 10 years ago

7 comments

cryoshonover 10 years ago
This article sucks, and is basically marketing for the new wave of nootropic companies. I think nootropic use is an issue that will enter the societal conversation relatively soon, but it&#x27;s important to note that for the most part, the younger generation has already gone half-in on nootropic use-- while many were non-consensually plied with nootropics by their parents&#x2F;teachers to increase their productivity, nearly all have experimented with nootropics to some degree on their own, even if it&#x27;s just with coffee. I am of the opinion that a good place for us to land would be the removal of any and all limits on what a person is allowed to consume in the name of self-modification, so long as it doesn&#x27;t hurt anyone other than the user. In practice, most nootropics are whitemarket or greymarket, with a number of notable entries being prescription-only.<p>Nootropics are for everyone, and always have been due to the fact that having greater cognitive ability is a large factor in success at most tasks.<p>Coffee (caffeine) is the most consumed nootropic in the history of the planet, and is probably the safest. There are probably a number of other equally useful yet harmless compounds out there that are ripe for discovery, but I wouldn&#x27;t exactly put my money on the options that this article suggests.<p>I&#x27;ve experimented with nootropics extensively, and here are some of my findings:<p>1. Piracetam makes me very spacey and distant<p>2. Modafinil is good for staying awake without jitters, but otherwise useless<p>3. Adderall is too stimulative and leads to jittery, coked-out thoughts<p>4. Caffeine is a winner<p>5. Weed improves creativity but makes tracing the logical steps of your thoughts more difficult<p>6. Fish oil helps reduce skin dryness but nothing else that is detectable
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6stringmercover 10 years ago
What a terrible article. It takes all the interesting parts regarding psychonaut exploration &#x2F; mind expansion, frames it in &quot;revolutionary&quot; terms because of an association with technology, and ends with the banal conclusion of &quot;More research in this field is necessary.&quot; Could get about a B in a high school English class though.<p>Citing Reddit is interesting, if there wasn&#x27;t something called Erowid that was trying to do research &#x2F; public service for years and years and years...there&#x27;s some great potential in learning more about the mind and the substances that can enhance talents or treat issues, but I&#x27;m inherently skeptical that the VC&#x2F;SV environment is to be trusted with that kind of &quot;disruption.&quot; Can&#x27;t even re-invent the taxi service without protocols to prevent kidnapping and&#x2F;or trust the leadership not to race-to-the-bottom by digging up dirt on critics. Yeah, anecdotal, but relevant to my trust factor.
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acconradover 10 years ago
This user submitted for the same company 2 days ago[1] and was subsequently flag-killed, it&#x27;s no surprised that they sponsored to write this article for TechCrunch as well.<p>Their product is Bacopa + L-Theanine + Caffeine, which other than the caffeine, shows little nootropic properties. L-Theanine has only been weakly shown to relax people, and has had no scientific consensus that it improves attention.[2] Bacopa has only 1 study citing any enhancements from attention, but those people had ADD; the only positive was a majority consensus that bacopa enhanced memory, but required significant (4-6 weeks) dosage in order to see measurable results.[3]<p>[1] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9028594" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9028594</a><p>[2] <a href="http://examine.com/supplements/Theanine/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;examine.com&#x2F;supplements&#x2F;Theanine&#x2F;</a><p>[3] <a href="http://examine.com/supplements/Bacopa+monnieri/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;examine.com&#x2F;supplements&#x2F;Bacopa+monnieri&#x2F;</a>
plusover 10 years ago
I remain unconvinced that Nootrobox&#x27;s mixture of caffeine, green tea extract, and herbal supplements is anything more than an expensive stay-awake pill.
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atomicalover 10 years ago
These articles inevitability gloss over a lot of the newer, higher risk, compounds that are used.
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jsonneover 10 years ago
This is interesting. I&#x27;ve dabbled with nootropics for reducing anxiety and helping with sleep, and I&#x27;ve been rather pleased with the results. This is obviously anecdotal, and could well be a placebo, but frankly I don&#x27;t care. Whether or not it &quot;works&quot; the effects have been positive for me.
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tek-cyb-orgover 10 years ago
Link bait?
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