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The prisoners trying to code their way to a better life

65 pointsby hachiyaover 10 years ago

12 comments

felon_developerover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m self taught, and had 2-3 years of a career before being incarcerated. I was incarcerated for 6 years. During that time, I had a few books. Other than a couple of basic computer courses, no access to computers. Just did my best to keep my mind in it.<p>EDIT: I guess a new account can&#x27;t comment more than once (makes sense) so I&#x27;d like to address the background check issue: I&#x27;ve had numerous jobs, where I disclosed honestly. My felony was a <i>very</i> serious one.<p>Now I&#x27;m quite successful (making well over market; a regular poster on HN; throwaway account is obvious). I recently hired a released inmate who I knew could code though he hadn&#x27;t ever really done it (he showed me some code he wrote down in TI-BASIC). This guy was locked up 15 years, but within a few months, he&#x27;s learning as fast or faster than any random person.
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thefreemanover 10 years ago
I actually think this is a great idea. While it is true they likely wouldn&#x27;t be able to find a job in the industry with this training, I am sure some of them will come out with enough skill to do things like bid on freelance projects on elance.com.<p>It really doesn&#x27;t take a lot of projects to make equivalent and greater money then the type of minimum wage or manual labor jobs many ex-cons would end up working instead (or even petty crime).
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zkhaliqueover 10 years ago
Well, finally. I mean, prisoners are kept without computers in their jail cells usually, bored out of their minds. Instead, they could be reformed by giving them useful work!
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mijoharasover 10 years ago
Wow, learning to code without being able to refer to stackoverflow or anything on the internet... does that count as cruel and unusual punishment?
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FamousShoesover 10 years ago
If anyone has information on how to help with or reach out to this or similar programs, please post what you&#x27;ve got!<p>[Edit] Here&#x27;s an article with more comprehensive information, including the program&#x27;s origins and the organizations behind it: <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/how-18-inmates-at-californias-notorious-san-quentin-prison-learn-to-code/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;how-18-inmates-at...</a>
jkotover 10 years ago
&gt; San Quentin state prison in California has begun a ground-breaking programme to teach prisoners how to code.<p>What is so ground-breaking on that? Any normal country will some sort of education to their prisoners.
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bitslayerover 10 years ago
This is great, but there is a much greater need, simple literacy. <a href="http://www.invisiblechildren.org/2010/11/18/75-of-inmates-are-illiterate-19-are-completely-illiterate-ruben-rosario/#sthash.lbNiWXt6.dpbs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.invisiblechildren.org&#x2F;2010&#x2F;11&#x2F;18&#x2F;75-of-inmates-ar...</a>
ljdover 10 years ago
There is one path for HackReactor to make money on this, they can act as recruiters between prisoners and companies.<p>I know as an employer of developers, that I would hire someone with a felony because I know their introductory salary will be lower but their skill set should be the same. Which may sound over opportunistic, but it&#x27;s just economics, fewer offers mean lower initial pay. The downside is if they become excellent developers it&#x27;ll be hard to keep them at the lower salary, even if they do have a felony.
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gambitingover 10 years ago
Except that - if I understand how US justice system works correctly - they won&#x27;t be hired by anyone because they have a sentence in their books. Which is awful.
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sethrinover 10 years ago
I had the idea of wanting to teach programming in a prison, but it seemed to have the same requirements as teaching anywhere else: a degree, preferably in education, preferably a master&#x27;s. I&#x27;m self taught and don&#x27;t have a degree, so it sounds like it&#x27;s not really an option for me. Does anyone have more information about how one would go about doing this, perhaps on a volunteer basis?
fifthesteightover 10 years ago
one of the best programmers i&#x27;ve ever worked with spent his time teaching himself php. he was a bright kid who made a stupid decision, but didnt let that stop him. we worked together for about 2 years and he ended up getting a couple great offers and now balls way, way harder than me. i have so much respect for him.
mariusz79over 10 years ago
Maybe The Mafia, or some other criminal organization could sponsor this training. This way they could create a nice, steady pool of applicants for the White Collar Crime Division :)