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The NYTimes could be worth $19bn instead of $2bn

18 pointsby shahoceanover 10 years ago

5 comments

morganteover 10 years ago
This analysis misses out on the importance of growth in establishing valuations.<p>NYT might have great revenue (it does), but it also doesn&#x27;t have as much growth potential as Buzzfeed. They have fewer new markets to reach and less segments to expand into. Probably the only big financial upside they have is in cutting legacy print costs.<p>Of course, this same growth-based analysis also applies to Facebook&#x2F;Twitter vs Google. They&#x27;re both much younger businesses than Google and presumably have lots of growth available in both users and advertising effectiveness. Google, on the other hand, has been selling ads since before Facebook even existed. Thus, it&#x27;s easy to make a case for Google having reached it&#x27;s peak while Facebook has room left to grow.<p>Also, any analysis which conflates newsroom uniques with service users is basically useless. The average content &quot;unique user&quot; reads a few articles a month (if you&#x27;re lucky), but the average user of a service like Facebook logs in multiple times a week. This is one of the key reasons that VCs prefer technology companies to media: users have much more of a regular relationship with their users. If the NYT shut down tomorrow, the majority of their 57 million visitors wouldn&#x27;t even notice. But if Facebook shut down tomorrow, it&#x27;d be on TV: hundreds of millions of people would notice.<p>That being said, I do agree with the premise that the NYT is undervalued. They&#x27;ve made tremendous strides at improving their digital operations over the past few years (especially in 2014) and have also realized that serious investment in technology is critical to remaining positive. If nytimes.com were exactly the same as it is today, with the same team &amp; investments, but had been founded as a startup a few years ago I bet they&#x27;d have a $10b valuation at least.
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allworknoplayover 10 years ago
Ugh. I sincerely hope investors do not force the NYT to shutter its newsroom operations and become buzzfeed.
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Gustomaximusover 10 years ago
The key point I didn&#x27;t see mentioned is potential for growth.<p>Sure Twitter and others have a significantly higher valuation, but they also have expectations (and I&#x27;m not sure I agree) for significantly higher growth potential and future earnings.
cat9over 10 years ago
The traditional response if you firmly believe a stock is undervalued by a factor of &gt; 8.6 is to buy as much of it as your finances will bear, then sit on it. It would be interesting to see whether the author does so.<p>There&#x27;s also the possibility that BuzzFeed et al. are proportionally overvalued, which seems like it&#x27;s probably the case in some instances, but the argument you&#x27;re making if &quot;valuation &gt;&gt; revenue - costs&quot; is that the right hand side of the equation is accelerating in a way that justifies the left hand side.
_almosnowover 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t understand what is &quot;membership&quot; in sites like Google&#x2F;Twitter&#x2F;Facebook. I thought that it could be when you have an account in there vs you don&#x27;t; but how then can you be a &quot;non-member&quot; at Facebook, for instance.<p>Can someone please clarify this for me?
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