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Women are leaving the tech industry in droves

62 pointsby cgoodmacover 10 years ago

8 comments

WaltPurvisover 10 years ago
The article begins by introducing Ana Redmond, who &quot;launched into a technology career ... well-equipped to succeed ... In 2011, after 15 years, she left before achieving a management position.&quot;<p>The article ends by telling us &quot;Redmond now runs her own business making educational apps for children.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m sorry, but how does founding a company that builds apps count as &quot;leaving the tech industry&quot;?<p>I&#x27;m sure women face many subtle and not-so-subtle issues working in tech, because it is very much a boys&#x27; club, but I&#x27;m not so sure about the analytical merits of this article.
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renaudgover 10 years ago
<i>His black pants wearing bosses told him he&#x27;d built it without permission. Then they said only architects within the company could pitch features — and all the architects were wearing black pants !</i><p>&quot;Clearly this is not a coincidence. It has nothing to do with this company just being dysfunctional and unwelcoming of individual initiatives or anything, no : this <i>has got to be</i> discrimination against people wearing blue pants like myself ! This would definitely <i>never</i> happen to my colleagues who prefer black pants. I&#x27;m sure you can find other stories of blue pants-wearing people like myself who at least once didn&#x27;t get that promotion, and make a nice article about it with a catchy headline. Go to work, journalist !&quot;<p>Gender discrimination in tech might exist, but it will take more than anecdotal stories like these thrown together to establish causation.<p>Any white male developer with some big corp experience will have experienced the frustrating situation described above. This is the control group, and it says your &quot;gender&quot; variable in that particular experiment is BS.<p>Some white males never get &quot;that&quot; promotion either, I&#x27;m sure you can find enough of them to make a nice article about it. They just don&#x27;t have the opportunity of blaming it on their genitals nor do they have support groups dedicated to them.<p>The constant use of fallacies and sensationalism by well-meaning (and less well-meaning) feminists is doing a disservice to taking these issues seriously where they do exist, IMHO.
codeddesignover 10 years ago
I&#x27;m sorry, but I don&#x27;t see the issue. I continue to see article after article about women not being in the tech space, but being in corp. tech for over 10 years - outside of larger conservative tech companies such as IBM, the issue isn&#x27;t that women cannot obtain advancement but more so of the ratio of woman&#x2F;men in the tech sector. Should I be upset that when I go for my checkup, that I see primarily Asian doctors? Are they getting greater advancement because they are Asian? Or it is the fact that 1 segment of the population has a larger number entering that space?<p>&quot;Her male bosses told her she&#x27;d built it without permission. Then they said only architects within the company could pitch features — and all the architects were male.&quot;<p>^^ As a white male, I had recently done this in my job and was told the same. Our protocol as that we are required to request permission prior to developing new features. This is not uncommon.<p>&quot;It&#x27;s why the industry is so eager to hire women and minorities. For decades tech companies have relied on a workforce of whites and Asians, most of them men.&quot;<p><i></i>facepalm<i></i> Really? Where are the women who are crying out for equal rights? As a white male, I would assume companies would seek the best that they could find, rather than seek to locate a segment of the population that is less inclined to enter the tech space.<p>This is just a poorly written article to draw in readers, and a few instances of people that had bad experiences in their own workplace rather than industry facts. We are have bad experiences in life and work, regardless of our sex, age, race, or religion. While I am not saying that it does not happen, I am saying that this is a &quot;junk&quot; piece created for readership that is pro woman man slapping.
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zenpaulover 10 years ago
The facts of article don&#x27;t support the headline, since the numbers they reference are for total female percentages, not attrition numbers. Sounds to me that it&#x27;s not that they&#x27;re leaving, but they didn&#x27;t get there in the first place.<p>What got me was the last quote from Garann Means - &quot;The main thing would be professionalism. Just being able to treat each other with respect would be huge.&quot;<p>Those words echo exactly what my wife says almost daily, and she is a non-tech manager at a non-tech company.
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tzsover 10 years ago
Note for readers on mobile: if you see a dark overly and cannot find what to click to make it go away, try rotating your device. That sometimes will reveal the blocking ad that they are incompetently trying to display.
dmschulmanover 10 years ago
The article leads with Ana Redmond and Garann Means but the featured photo is Tracy Chou? The author doesn&#x27;t even mention Chou until the 19th paragraph!
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polarixover 10 years ago
Fascinating. Note to potential commenters: the same article just had a discussion thread which was flagkilled. Don&#x27;t invest any energy or thought in your comment, as it&#x27;s likely at risk of removal again.
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DiversityWorksover 10 years ago
Misogyny in tech, example #547,423,842,763. Yet on cue the hard done-by privileged white males are coming out of the woodwork to whine.
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