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UK websites place average of 44 cookies on first visit

42 pointsby adrowabout 10 years ago

10 comments

gearhartabout 10 years ago
This article is completely incompetent.<p>Firstly - any number of cookies from a single domain are equivalent, you can always use whatever identifier is in the cookie&#x27;s data to store and retrieve an arbitrary amount of data about the user. That there are lots of them implies either that the site is using a bunch of different front end libraries &#x2F; components that don&#x27;t talk to one another (which is irrelevant from a privacy perspective) or that more data is being stored&#x2F;cached directly in the browser rather than being retrieved from a remote server which is the <i>opposite</i> of a privacy issue, since it&#x27;s keeping <i>your data</i> in <i>your browser</i>.<p>Secondly - cookies are one of: &quot;session&quot;, &quot;expiring&quot;, &quot;perpetual&quot;. With the first set to expire when you close the browser, the second expiring at some period between now and when your browser&#x2F;cache&#x2F;computer&#x2F;operating system gets wiped or replaced (i.e. ~&lt;12 months) and the third expiring <i>at any arbitrary date after that</i> (i.e. anything with an expiration date of more than ~12 months is the same, who cares if it&#x27;s two years or ten thousand).<p>It&#x27;s horrifying that this is a study paid for with public money and fed back to the public from a source purporting to be an expert.<p>Edit: by saying &quot;from a single domain&quot; I&#x27;m expressly avoiding the differentiation between first and third-party cookies - it obviously makes a difference how many third parties you share data with, which defensibly has some relationship to the number of different domains that serve third party cookies on a site.
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blfrabout 10 years ago
Evil ad networks only need a handful of cookies to track you. They could probably go without cookies entirely, just by fingerprinting the browser. They have the resources and know-how.<p>This happens because many webmasters build frankensites by copying and pasting snippets of code to get the functionality they need. Those load a bunch of resources from all over the net and dump a jar of cookies in your lap. It&#x27;s the same laziness that makes devs set expiration to 9999.<p>The popouts, or banners, with cookie information are a pointless annoyance, not an encouraging development.
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troelsabout 10 years ago
It seems a bit disingenuous to present numbers like that. For the lay person, it may sound scary that there as 44 cookies on a given page, but that&#x27;s a completely arbitrary measure. I would think that the important thing isn&#x27;t the number of cookies, but rather what which entities they are shared with and to some extend the information attached to them. First party cookie for example are not a privacy issue at all.
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bartkappenburgabout 10 years ago
Self plug: we&#x27;ve developed cookie-checker.com. A way to check which cookies are placed with first time visitor.<p>ico.org.uk places 3 cookies (1 session, 2 other valid up to today and 2017): <a href="http://www.cookie-checker.com/check-cookies.php?url=ico.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cookie-checker.com&#x2F;check-cookies.php?url=ico.org....</a>
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JamesBaxterabout 10 years ago
Got a chuckle from the article alerting me to its use of cookies.<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/3PIC1af.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;3PIC1af.png</a>
graystevensabout 10 years ago
This article alone places 9 on my system, plus a small lorry loads worth from .youtube.com due to the embedded video.
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Paddingabout 10 years ago
I never understood why cookies receive so much attention in various privacy discussions. They are the one thing the user has full control over.<p>Yes it takes some effort to delete them, but so does looking left and right before crossing the street.
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Tepixabout 10 years ago
First thing you should do when setting up a new browser is blocking third party cookies - unless you&#x27;re using Safari which blocks them by default.<p>The number of sites that don&#x27;t work with 3rd party cookies is very small - whenever I run into one I usually use an alternative site or complain.
DanBCabout 10 years ago
When cookies were first introduced a number of sensible people had reasonable concerns about privacy.<p>I&#x27;m not sure how we got from there to here - a sub-optimal law and not-great research (81 sites?) all while companies aggressively collect and mine data.
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heeenabout 10 years ago
you can keep a whitelist of allowed permament&#x2F;session&#x2F;temporary cookies with <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cslite-mod/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;cslite-mod&#x2F;</a>
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