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Ask HN: What should Microsoft do to change geek opinion?

14 pointsby aliostadabout 10 years ago
Since (and even before) Satya Nadella become CEO of Microsoft, a lot has changed. From adoption of Open Source technologies to open sourcing a big chunk of its active software stack, from hosting Linux on Azure to supporting Office and .NET on all major platforms, not to mention its active contributing to Hadoop and a lot of other projects.<p>Having said that all, I can see little being changed from the attitude of the community towards Microsoft. Some are still skeptic about how real a move it is while others feel it is too little too late. Some (including me) feel this comes out of utter desperation rather than a strategic move from a change in the vision of the company. And ss Satya himself said, the biggest challenge is changing the internal culture.<p>So would you think attitude of the general geek community has changed towards Microsoft? And if not, why that is and what would make you change your opinion?

16 comments

throwawaykf05about 10 years ago
Most geeks I know of are OK with Microsoft, actually. I find online communities, in general, amplify the voices of a discontented minority because the vast majority don&#x27;t bother saying anything about a topic that simply doesn&#x27;t affect them much either negatively or positively.
rlw001about 10 years ago
Microsoft has spent a lot of time and effort putting themselves in the this position (closed source, ignoring and even shunning open source, OEM agreements that border on predatory, and so on...)<p>Unfortunately I believe the only thing that will change opinions are a considerable amount of time and effort in the other direction.
frozenportabout 10 years ago
I want the linux tools I am familiar with. This means a useful cmd, different FS layout and a gcc&#x2F;icc style interface for MSVC.
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ChikkaChiChiabout 10 years ago
Open source all patents related to the threat *nix based operating systems.
antodabout 10 years ago
They have improved a lot recently but some things I&#x27;d really like to see...<p>* Ship native SSH (inc scp&#x2F;sftp) and rsync clients and servers with Windows to make interoperability easier in heterogeneous environments. eg make SSH a first class transport option for Powershell remoting.<p>* Simplify the server licensing complexity, and then stop changing it all the time.<p>* Stop the secure boot shenanigans.<p>* Stop treating most HA, security or robustness features in SQL Server as &quot;value adds&quot; that are only in the really expensive editions.<p>* Contribute more engineering resources to improve open source interoperability projects and various &#x27;DevOps&#x27; tools eg WinRM libraries, Configuration Management tools, Packer, Vagrant etc.
mcintyre1994about 10 years ago
Really I think this problem is overblown at this point. That said, a surefire way would be something like Twitters patent agreement - guarantee no offensive patent use. This would mean giving up a bunch of Android revenue though so I don&#x27;t see it.
jpetersonmnabout 10 years ago
For me if they would lower the prices of their msdn subscriptions I&#x27;d dev for their OS more. $699&#x2F;year is the cheapest option to have access to their OS&#x27;s for testing. That&#x27;s pretty expensive in my opinion.
serve_yayabout 10 years ago
They&#x27;re trying a bunch of things, I&#x27;m sure some of them are working. I went to a JS conference recently and one of their dev evangelists was talking about using JS to control Arduinos or whatever. No proprietary-stack stuff in sight.<p>I don&#x27;t have numbers to say &quot;a majority&quot;, but a whole lot of developers don&#x27;t use Windows. They really need to give up on the Windows-everywhere stuff, but as I understand it that was a Ballmer thing. Anyway, I mean, they&#x27;re Microsoft. I&#x27;m sure they&#x27;ll land on their feet.
MalcolmDiggsabout 10 years ago
My (very low) opinion of them would change overnight if they released something (anything) that was definitively better than my other options. I try to be pretty pragmatic about these things; I&#x27;m always interested in using the best tools available. If they start making the best tools, I&#x27;ll back them 100%! But for now, I just don&#x27;t see how using their products gives me any kind of edge at all.
davidf18about 10 years ago
Have more contributors to open source such as Scala and Spark. I was at a (Apache) Spark conference yesterday and IBM was demoing a Spark interface to iPython 3 notebooks. Something really useful. Microsoft wasn&#x27;t even exhibiting.<p>Mimic the Unix command line environment of Mac that runs the various untilies (eg, homebrew).
kylloabout 10 years ago
Throwing their code on github, releasing cross-platform applications, and making it free to upgrade to Win10 is a big step in the right direction. They should also make Windows itself open source and just sell enterprise support.
pc2g4dabout 10 years ago
Continue involvement with open source projects in a way that shows good will toward the larger community. Stay on the course it&#x27;s on at the moment---it will pay off.
sogenabout 10 years ago
They need More marketing.<p>Hire cool agencies like Hello Monday (they&#x27;ve done most of Google and Android stuff).
Torgoabout 10 years ago
limited IE testing VMs that work in Virtualbox that don&#x27;t require a license or constant upgrades. I know there are VMs but last time I messed with them they lasted for a while and then stopped working.
thecrumbabout 10 years ago
And cron. Damn that Windows scheduler mess.
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dandareabout 10 years ago
I have not seen Win 8 so I can only speak from the previous 10 years of experience - they should fix the UX. I always hated how complicated and perplexing everything was and when something failed Win would almost laugh in my face blaming me for it.