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We’re Getting It Wrong

1 pointsby kohsukeabout 10 years ago

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kohsukeabout 10 years ago
Personally, I don&#x27;t feel all that strongly that we are collectively getting it wrong, certainly not to the extent of getting a domain name just for that! I think most developers do indeed talk to their users, and they rather enjoy doing it, too. I&#x27;ve once worked in a place where developers are more detached from users, but that was an exception, not a norm.<p>There&#x27;s also a difference between the opinion of one user vs the collective opinions of users as a whole. In most software these are conflicting goals. For example, iOS can&#x27;t just add random features willy-nilly to satisfy an individual&#x27;s feedback. So the product management needs to come in between developers and users to aggregate user demands. You&#x27;ll have to make everyone a little bit unhappy to make users collectively happier. One of the reasons I like extensible software is that those two goals are no longer conflicting. Hopefully you know what I mean when you see Jenkins (<a href="http://jenkins-ci.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jenkins-ci.org&#x2F;</a>)<p>I do share the joy of &quot;caring about your users,&quot; there&#x27;s something very special in knowing this one person&#x2F;user, understanding his&#x2F;her needs, solving it, and making him&#x2F;her happy. We obviously do that through software, but this drive is universal.
apwashereabout 10 years ago
<i>&gt; For example, in my entire carrer in this industry, I can honestly say without any exaggeration that I have never met a single person who was obsessed about proving P != NP.</i><p>Fair point - an example related to inventing new datastructures would probably have been slightly more realistic ;-)<p>I certainly agree with your point about &quot;the challenge of the collective user&quot; from a PM perspective. I&#x27;ve worked on quite a few teams where this &quot;collective user&quot; was more of a product of the marketing or PM team&#x27;s imagination than actually representative of real users, though - and even if you cannot please all users all of the time, in my experience the more of those users are real, the more motivated you are to try to please as many of them as you can.<p>Overall, very glad to hear there are lots of parts of the industry that are doing a lot better than I have experienced!<p>Regards<p>ap