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First Round Capital Open Application for Startups

134 pointsby _piusabout 10 years ago

14 comments

staunchabout 10 years ago
YC has had the field to themselves for a decade because no other firm actually believes the best people are outside their personal networks.<p>Other VCs want to believe in &quot;proprietary deal flow&quot; and their own ability to worm into hot companies. Probably because it seems more a sure thing than, <i>gasp</i>, actually judging startups on their merits, like YC at least tries to do.
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zmitriabout 10 years ago
Hmm this seems like a waste of time. Very nebulous. You should focus on building your product and users instead. If you do that and succeed at it you&#x27;ll be able to get a meeting with whoever you want.<p>Most investments come from warm referrals or investors you meet and build a relationship with. I would be surprised if this got you a serious meeting with a partner who can make a decision.<p>How is this different than YC you ask? YC makes their terms clear and upfront (120k for x%) and has a whole process for reviewing all the applications you send in. Not only that, it is in YC&#x27;s best interest to introduce you to other investors.
ffoxddabout 10 years ago
Don&#x27;t do it! They&#x27;ll put you in an embarrassing holiday music video!
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mcginleyr1about 10 years ago
I&#x27;ve been involved in a First Round company since just before the A round. Generally against VC for my ideas. Kinda thinking just grow slow on the side as much as you can, more a lifestyle business. My time with a few VC backed companies has made me jaded I guess.
teammattersabout 10 years ago
This is nice to see and is a step to breaking down the ivy league snob high school mentality that Ive experienced with some VCs.<p>Case in point a VC whose east coast venture recently imploded was speaking at a conference. After the conference ended entrepreneurs started to approach and pitch him. He acted like he was king crap and he didn&#x27;t to be bothered by entrepreneurs, but umm that&#x27;s what he signed on for. He even later made a rude remark on Twitter about an entrepreneur he just met(didn&#x27;t name names).<p>VCs like him... please get over yourself, be humble&#x2F;nice and don&#x27;t be D*&amp;K! Because one day like the VC I noted above, your on cloud 9 and the next you look like a fool&#x2F;complete failure in front of the community!
minimaxirabout 10 years ago
It&#x27;s worth noting that HireVue, the company used to process the applications, is <i>not</i> a First Round Capital-funded startup, which is unusual as VC-firms tend to favor their own startups for external affairs. (Hacker News, for example, has had interaction with YC companies Octopart, Algolia, and Firebase, possibly more.)
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kenrikmabout 10 years ago
Semi-Curious about the &quot;seed-stage&quot; investments being 1-3m as that seems rather large even by post demo day YC standards. Unless the expectation is that there has been a friends&#x2F;family&#x2F;angel round prior to this with existing growth&#x2F;traction from said investments? I think some additional clarification on what traction&#x2F;stage First Round is looking for would save some time on their end and also for companies applying that might not fit into that mold not to waste their time.
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nodesocketabout 10 years ago
Why not integrate with the AngelList platform, so I can just submit my startup to FirstRound that way?
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yidabout 10 years ago
&gt; Should everyone apply to First Round through the OpenApp? &gt; No. The best way to reach us is still through a referral.<p>I&#x27;m curious why even an &quot;open application&quot; has big bold lettering saying that referrals are favored over the application itself. Is spam really such a huge problem, or is this some sort of signaling mechanism?
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sparkzillaabout 10 years ago
I think this initiative great for companies like mine who are outside the VC and Silicon Valley loop. However, I wish it was through a normal application process which uses a text-based application, followed by an interview in real life or on Skype. It&#x27;s a huge extra level of stress to have to make a video for multiple questions with 30 seconds prep for each answer, with no human feedback, and with no chance of re-doing your answers. It&#x27;s the equivalent of doing 18 Y Combinator one-minute videos live back to back with no chance of fixing mistakes. In fact, because I didn&#x27;t know how the system worked and pressed the wrong button I&#x27;ve already screwed up the first question with no chance to fix it. I don&#x27;t know if I should just give up already, or go through the rest of what is really an unnecessary painful process. Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I&#x27;ve made videos for Y Combinator applications (one minute usually takes me and my partner at least ten tries) and am happy to talk on Skype, and of course do presentations in real life, but this format sucks.
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faramarzabout 10 years ago
It&#x27;s an experiment, and worth mentioning this line from the site<p><pre><code> &quot;Furthermore, for the first few months of this experiment, we will review only the first 100 interviews submitted through the Open App each month.&quot;</code></pre>
graycatabout 10 years ago
I know some people in (1) the top of business in the US, (2) high end US research academics, and (3) information technology (IT).<p>(A) Bluntly likely none of those people knows anyone at First Round Capital. (B) Bluntly, with the exception of Howard Morgan, the qualifications of the people at First Round Capital in business, research academics, and technology are not high enough to be respected by the people I know. Net, the people at First Round Capital and myself know nearly none of the same people.<p>Moreover, for my technology startup, there is no one at First Round Capital with business, academic, or technology qualifications good enough for me to hire for a significant position. I&#x27;d have a tough time respecting any of them to take their <i>advice</i> on my startup.<p>Once, just once, I did call a person I know, the founder, COB, CEO of a major, world famous company and asked for an introduction to his CIO. The CIO and I talked and had a nice review of history, and he gave me an introduction to a partner at a venture firm with a partner on the BoD of the company. Net, the introduction meant nothing -- the venture partner paid no attention to the introduction or my project at all; we did communicate but just as in a <i>cold call</i>.<p>I never again wanted to bother any of the high end people I know, bother them to <i>introduce</i> me to a venture firm just to get past some absurd <i>hoop</i> the venture firm erected but ignored.<p>Net, venture firms who want <i>introductions</i> get put at the bottom of my list; the venture partners and I nearly never know or respect the same people; I&#x27;m not going to pester the good, important people I know and respect to have them waste their time communicating with people as poorly qualified in business, research, and IT as all but a small number of venture partners. No way.<p>Next, in contacting venture firms just via <i>cold calls</i>, I&#x27;ve had little trouble getting through and getting a response including several hour long conference calls. In particular well known venture partners at well known venture firms are aware of my work on my project, all without any <i>introductions</i>.<p>Net, it appears to me that <i>introductions</i> are not really necessary and not very helpful.<p>What was helpful was having a <i>team</i>: For a while I did that, but too soon I encountered the common problem -- disputes. So, now I&#x27;m a solo founder. There are some serious advantages being a solo founder, but it does appear that getting a phone conversation with a venture partner as a solo founder is more difficult. For whatever reasons, venture firms don&#x27;t like solo founder startups.<p>Moreover, it appears to me that, really, venture firms have their feet locked in concrete that, with only some rare exceptions, they just will not pay much attention to an IT startup before the software is developed and there is significant <i>traction</i> growing rapidly. E.g., venture partner Fred Wilson at his Union Square Ventures recently made it clear on his blog AVC.com that he just will not fund software development. Okay by me.<p>But at<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;a16z.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;the-happy-demise-of-the-10x-engineer&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;a16z.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;the-happy-demise-of-the-10x-engin...</a><p>with<p>&quot;The Happy Demise of the 10X Engineer&quot;<p>By Sam Gerstenzang<p>is in part:<p>&quot;This is the new normal: fewer engineers and dollars to ship code to more users than ever before. The potential impact of the lone software engineer is soaring. How long before we have a billion-dollar acquisition offer for a one-engineer startup? How long before the role of an engineer, artisanally crafting custom solutions, vanishes altogether?&quot;<p>So, Andreessen-Horowitz is admitting the possibility of a solo founder creating a billion dollar startup.<p>I don&#x27;t see just why not: Venture firms want the code written and traction significant and growing rapidly. If the startup is ad supported, then it doesn&#x27;t take much traction to let a solo (single) founder startup have cash enough for <i>organic growth</i>, that is, without equity funding. Then, if enough of the 3+ billion Internet users like the work a lot, presto, bingo, a billion dollar startup.<p>Indeed, for my startup, I believe that, as the founder, I need to &quot;know my business&quot; (a traditional criterion), and that includes the code, the servers, how to please the users, how to please the paying customers, how to handle the billing, bookkeeping, accounting, legal, etc. So, I&#x27;m not seeing where a larger <i>founding team</i> is necessary. First hire? Likely an Office Manager, and not a <i>co-founder</i>.<p>There is some irony: Necessarily venture firms are looking for highly exceptional projects, but their means of looking are mostly to compare with simplistic patterns from the past -- not promising. And as in<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kauffman.org&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2012&#x2F;07&#x2F;institutional-limited-partners-must-accept-blame-for-poor-longterm-returns-from-venture-capital-says-new-kauffman-report" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kauffman.org&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2012&#x2F;07&#x2F;institutional-limit...</a><p>and<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.avc.com&#x2F;a_vc&#x2F;2013&#x2F;02&#x2F;venture-capital-returns.html#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.avc.com&#x2F;a_vc&#x2F;2013&#x2F;02&#x2F;venture-capital-returns.html...</a><p>on average the venture firms are not making much money doing this.<p>Thankfully the US NSF, NIH, DARPA, various other parts of the US DoD, commonly ignore simplistic patterns from the past and, instead, actually get expert evaluations of projects submitted on paper. Moreover, the history is that projects that do well on such evaluations have much better <i>batting average</i> or <i>ROI</i> than US IT venture capital.<p>E.g., for the Manhattan Project, the US DoD (then the War Department) didn&#x27;t reject the project because it looked nothing like the long history of bombs.<p>The CIA didn&#x27;t reject the SR-71 because it looked very different from anything in the past of aviation.<p>The US Navy didn&#x27;t reject the first satellite navigation system because it looked nothing like anything in the history of navigation.<p>NSF prize winning research rarely looks much like the past.<p>The Human Genome project funded by the NIH looked very different from anything in the past.<p>Intel is shooting for 10nm -- again, <i>new ground</i> significantly different from anything in the past.<p>But only a tiny fraction of US IT venture partners have the ability, say, of a project reviewer for a leading peer-reviewed journal of original research or the NSF or NIH, to review leading-edge technical material. That&#x27;s been their business model. Okay.<p>Yes, venture firms on their Web sites commonly claim to have &quot;deep domain knowledge&quot;. Curious: Only a tiny fraction of US IT venture partners have the qualifications even to be admitted to the graduate program where I got my Ph.D.<p>Indeed, Google search<p>&quot;deep domain knowledge&quot; venture<p>gives &quot;About 40,600 results&quot;. I&#x27;ve read the backgrounds of hundreds of US IT venture partners, and I doubt that I&#x27;ve seen over 10 that have the qualifications for &quot;deep domain knowledge&quot; in anything very technical. I&#x27;ve seen a lot of lawyers, history majors, MBAs, international studies majors, English majors, etc. and darned few math, physics, engineering, or computer science majors.<p>It looks like in their educations, only a tiny fraction of the US IT VCs liked the STEM fields.<p>I published a paper in computer science. The paper has a typo. Here I make a public bet, of one dollar, that no US IT venture partner on their own can find the typo. Should such a person wish to try, then reply here, and I will send a PDF of the paper.<p>Hint: It would be good to be able to find, say,<p>Patrick Billingsley, &#x27;Convergence of Probability Measures&#x27;<p>fun and easy reading, and for that should have greatly enjoyed, say, at least the first (<i>real</i>) half of<p>Walter Rudin, &#x27;Real and Complex Analysis&#x27;<p>and<p>Walter Rudin, &#x27;Principles of Mathematical Analysis&#x27;.<p>Come on US IT VCs: You&#x27;ve got &quot;deep domain knowledge&quot;, high determination, are all-go, never stop, never give up, commonly leap tall buildings at a single bound, have over the top self esteem, etc. Should be a piece of cake for you, right?<p>I&#x27;ll save you some time:<p>(A) Look up the definitions of countability and of a sigma algebra. Then show that there are no countably infinite sigma algebras.<p>(B) For positive integer n, the real numbers R, R^n with the usual topology, and subset C of R^n closed in that topology, show that there exists function f: R^n --&gt; R zero on C, positive otherwise, and infinitely differentiable. Notice that examples of C include Cantor sets of positive measure, the Mandelbrot set, and sample paths of Brownian motion. Curious result.<p>If you find (A) and (B) easy, then by all means, also with your &quot;deep domain knowledge&quot;, read Rudin and go for the typo also using Billingsley.<p>What does the paper with the typo have to do with IT? It&#x27;s likely the best thing so far for detecting <i>zero day</i> problems in large server farms and networks.<p>Point: Only a tiny fraction of US IT venture partners have the &quot;deep domain knowledge&quot; necessary to evaluate new work in information technology.<p>So, they have to evaluate based mostly just on <i>traction</i>.<p>As far as I can tell, nearly everything else US IT VCs say they want to see is just smoke to cover the one thing they really want -- traction significant and growing rapidly.<p>Point: Due to the possibility of a solo founder with tiny burn rate, waiting for <i>traction</i> will be too late.<p>Can a solo founder of an IT startup hope to be successful without equity funding? Should be: All across the US, cross roads to the largest cities, solo founders do well mowing grass, selling pizza or hamburgers, pumping gas, paving driveways, ..., <i>big-truck, little-truck</i> distribution businesses, etc. without equity funding. IT should be an advantage.
robertandyabout 10 years ago
Summary:<p>&gt; Should everyone apply to First Round through the OpenApp?<p>&gt; No. The best way to reach us is still through a referral.<p>Outcome: Zilch.
notsonyabout 10 years ago
The First Round team doesn&#x27;t seem very diverse. Lots of white men, white women and a few Asian ladies. Not a single Asian male. Is there a glass ceiling?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;firstround.com&#x2F;people" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;firstround.com&#x2F;people</a>
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