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Data Suggests the Language of the Future Could Be French

20 pointsby lambtronabout 10 years ago

11 comments

nopinsightabout 10 years ago
The influence of a language is not determined by the number of its speakers, but their power and cultural influence. Given the myriad challenges facing sub-Saharan Africa, it is unlikely to give French much more influence even in 2050, which is just one generation away from now.<p>The only possibility is if sub-Saharan Africa can pull off the feat of China (lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty in one generation), but with much less supporting global economic and environmental climate, and questionable governance institutions. Altogether, the chance is slim.<p>(Also, even the projected 750 million speakers by 2050 will likely be smaller than the number of Hindi speakers then.)
PeterWhittakerabout 10 years ago
The study predicts the following changes in 40 years:<p>* a 20% drop in the use of Mandarin<p>* a 38% drop in the use of English<p>* a 17% increase in the use of Spanish<p>* a whopping 167% increase in the use of French<p>Hmm, hmm. Yeah, no. Don&#x27;t learn French. If you already know English, learn Spanish. It&#x27;s easier to learn, the grammar is gentler, it&#x27;s widely used, people who speak it tend to be a little more relaxed when it gets mangled by the rest of us....<p>(Full disclosure: French is so close to a mother tongue for me it&#x27;s not even funny, and is a mother tongue, along with English, for my daughter. Spanish is my third strongest language, much stronger than the few others I&#x27;ve learned and sort of lost.)
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father_of_twoabout 10 years ago
Oh the languages again. Many people don&#x27;t know that it was the US, and not the UK, who mostly contributed to the spread of English -- of course one might argue that US talk English in first place due to the UK. That world-wide&#x27;fication started after the WWII. In Europe, for instance, the number of students learning English as first foreign language only surpassed French ones by the 50s and 60s in most countries (sorry, can&#x27;t point now to the document in which I saw this info).<p>Why was it so massive? Due the huge world-wide US influence associated with the mass communication that was being established as mainstream by that time. It were the movies, the TV shows, the music. On tech it were the electronics, then computer science and then internet. Suddenly it was a snowball: the aeronautics, the navigation, the research papers, the international treaties, you name it... all in English.<p>We&#x27;ve got to a point where if a given music is in its original language, it runs the risk of being mostly unknown, but if it&#x27;s translated to English, it might be a huge success (see Claude François&#x27;s Comme d&#x27;habitude vs Frank Sinatra&#x27;s My Way, just to name one).<p>No language can ever surpass English until all this shifts to that language, and that&#x27;s very unlikely to happen. US made it big at the right time, now it&#x27;s too late change that.
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vorgabout 10 years ago
&gt; French will be present on all continents, and particularly predominant in a continent that, by 2050, should be a fast-growing economic powerhouse–Africa<p>6 years ago, Rwanda changed its language medium in schools from French to English, and more French Union African countries may follow. Virtually every African I meet from a French Union country speaks English just as well. If there&#x27;s any sudden decline in world population in the next 35 years, it will probably be in sub-Saharan Africa. Mandarin&#x27;s making inroads in Africa with the huge influx of Chinese workers there over the past 20 years.
ryanatknabout 10 years ago
&quot;The study’s methodology is somewhat questionable, since it counts as French-speakers all the inhabitants of countries where French is an official language, which probably won’t be the case. And almost certainly, as a second language, English will remain the lingua franca&quot;<p>Sounds like the study measures colonial vestiges and not real world usage.
tlianzaabout 10 years ago
&quot;Mandarin, despite being excruciatingly hard to learn for most Westerners...&quot;<p>Mandarin is hard to learn, period. Even if you&#x27;re born and raised in China and it&#x27;s the only language you know, it still takes a long time to learn.<p>No need to single out the Westerners :)
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Fiahilabout 10 years ago
This sound ridiculously like a piece of propaganda. The article doesn&#x27;t even link to the study.
leaveyouabout 10 years ago
&quot;French will be present on all continents, and particularly predominant in a continent that, by 2050, should be a fast-growing economic powerhouse–Africa&quot;. I find this very hard to imagine. Anyway, &quot;en 2050 je serai dans la tombe&quot;.
magic_beansabout 10 years ago
French in Africa is vastly different from French in France. So if you want to learn French to prepare yourself for 2060, learn African French.
leroy_masochistabout 10 years ago
Author: Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry<p>no, really
_dehabout 10 years ago
Formidable argument.