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Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

35 pointsby filetabout 10 years ago

8 comments

taylorlapeyreabout 10 years ago
Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.
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clumsysmurfabout 10 years ago
I&#x27;m worried they will inadvertently pollute their store with garbage from Google Play. Most people use just a handful of quality apps.<p>From my corner I hear a lot of grumbling from devs about Google&#x27;s terrible Android SDK, poor documentation, buggy releases, flaky and buggy tools.<p>&quot;“Our goal is to make Windows 10 the most attractive development platform ever,” Microsoft executive Terry Myerson told an audience&quot;<p>I never felt that was Google&#x27;s priority with Android. Its just that terrible.<p>Developers not strictly of the F&#x2F;OSS mindset would probably try Windows development just for some new scenery, if their tooling was that great and they had more market share.
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ams6110about 10 years ago
I just can&#x27;t imagine ever going back to Windows.
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shmerlabout 10 years ago
MS grip on the desktop market needs to be weakened. So far they still enjoy barely disputed control over common manufacturers who enforce Windows tax and don&#x27;t let users buy computers with other operating systems.
Animatsabout 10 years ago
From the article: <i>&quot;Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones.&quot;</i><p>That&#x27;s a problem. I don&#x27;t want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the phone. If I didn&#x27;t, why would I have a desktop machine?
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zarothabout 10 years ago
Every time I sit down in front of Win8 I feel like my head is going to explode. Earlier this evening I was on the phone trying to walk a tech-challenged colleague through removing an existing account in &#x27;Mail&#x27;. He had switched mail clients, and the new client would work once and then fail for hours, and then work once, etc. It hit me that Windows &#x27;Mail&#x27; was trying to login with an old password, and must be causing his account to lock out. Of course he didn&#x27;t know his current mail password either, so the best option was to just delete the account from Windows Mail.<p>It took several minutes just to explain how to get into &#x27;Settings&#x27;. Then after finally selecting an account, he couldn&#x27;t figure out that the right-hand panel with the settings actually <i>scrolled</i>. Then when he clicked &#x27;Remove Account&#x27; and it gave a cryptic error about how the account couldn&#x27;t be deleted, because it was his &quot;Microsoft Login&quot; account even though it looked like the work email account. Finally we found the right account and removed it. Almost 30 minutes of my life lost to something which should been about 5 clicks max.<p>I feel like literally everything about Win8 was designed as the complete opposite to how I would want my computer to actually function. First, the idea that Microsoft is sync&#x27;ing settings between machines in ways that is extremely difficult or impossible to turn off is worse than creepy, it feels like a back door. Then every time an app comes up as &quot;Metro&quot; styled or whatever, it seems incredibly wasteful, out-of-place and practically ridiculous looking. No, thank you, I don&#x27;t want my 4K monitor taken over by a full screen of purple and a tiny bit of text at the top. Then there are things like &#x27;Camera&#x27; app which when it fails simply says &#x27;Camera cannot start&#x27; and give you absolutely nothing to do about it (all the while Skype video-conferencing is working perfectly).<p>It&#x27;s like Microsoft thought, well most of our users don&#x27;t even know how to use a computer, so lets make an operating system for them! I must have some sort of PTSD from it because I often end up loudly cursing Microsoft&#x27;s existence any time I need to even approach a Win8 machine.<p>In short, if Microsoft is making a &quot;case&quot; for Windows 10 to anyone like me, it better look fuck all like Win8.<p>Yet I am convinced Microsoft still completely does not get it. My desktop is not my phone, and I don&#x27;t want to run smartphone apps on my desktop. There are incredible opportunities for tying together the computing experience between desktops and phones, but unifying the user interface is just dead wrong. It&#x27;s like the whole thing is just completely lost in translation. A unified experience does not mean a unified GUI! How can they get this so wrong even after 5 years of staring their failure in the face?
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jamessteiningerabout 10 years ago
What was wrong with the name Spartan for their new browser? I&#x27;m not sure how I feel about Edge...
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616cabout 10 years ago
How the hell did the Daily Star make it to the front page of HN?