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Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

6 pointsby yuashizukiabout 10 years ago
I have raised this issue a lot of times of hn being rigged, and this is the final time I am doing this. here is some more evidence. front page => http://imgur.com/GwtT4pF my link => http://imgur.com/K3nZ8dL enjoy your time here.

8 comments

anigbrowlabout 10 years ago
It&#x27;s not a straight votes vs. posting time chart, but weights submissions by other factors, like how fast the voting goes and other factors I don&#x27;t even know about.<p>Anyway, why do you care? I have stupendous amounts of karama but a lot of my submissions sink like a stone anyway, other times I post something that I consider amusing but unimportant and am surprised to find it sitting at the top of the front page hours later. It&#x27;s not like there&#x27;s some special store where you get to exchange karma points for cash&#x2F;equity&#x2F;delicious cake, although if anyone wants to set that up I would be totally supportive of it.<p>This isn&#x27;t the first time you&#x27;ve got upset about this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9241171" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9241171</a> I suggest you stop worrying about it.
cjensenabout 10 years ago
If your point is that your link with 7 upvotes was not promoted to the front page like another link with 7 upvotes, then... I&#x27;m afraid it&#x27;s not rigged at all: the rank algorithm has more inputs that just upvotes. Which should be obvious: otherwise the article that had the most upvotes in history would still be ranked #1.
duncan_bayneabout 10 years ago
&#x27;Rigged&#x27; makes it sound like you&#x27;re trying to win &#x2F; earn something from participating here. What&#x27;s your goal in participating on HN?
skoreckyabout 10 years ago
If you&#x27;re just here for the karma, you&#x27;re going to have a bad time.<p>Also in the pictures they are completely different titles. I&#x27;m not sure exactly what you&#x27;re trying to prove.
svisserabout 10 years ago
More votes doesn&#x27;t mean front page.<p>Surely you would agree that the algorithm should consider other factors, such as time between votes, who voted, and so on?
qiqingabout 10 years ago
I dunno, this seems like you might have triggered the &quot;vote-ring detector.&quot;
Mzabout 10 years ago
<i>hn being rigged</i><p>HN is &quot;rigged&quot; in that it has a set of rules that influence ranking. If you don&#x27;t like those rules, yeah, you won&#x27;t like it here. If you have some overdeveloped idea about how much attention you &quot;deserve&quot; or something, yeah, you probably won&#x27;t like it here. HN doesn&#x27;t exist as some venue for your personal convenience. It is a) part of the business strategy for Y-Combinator and b) a community. Every community has to find ways to balance diverse interests. And since it has a bona fide business purpose, that will come first, before other things. You can thus expect it to remain &quot;rigged&quot; and not live up to whatever imagined ideals you think it should ascribe to. FWIW, I think the fact that it is &quot;rigged&quot; is part of why it is one of the better things on the web.<p>ciao
yuashizukiabout 10 years ago
clicks front page =&gt; <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;GwtT4pF" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;GwtT4pF</a> mylink =&gt; <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;K3nZ8dL" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;K3nZ8dL</a>