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Meet Improbable, the Startup Building the World's Most Powerful Simulations

39 pointsby julespittalmost 10 years ago

12 comments

rdwalmost 10 years ago
Can anyone explain to me what it actually is? Everything I&#x27;ve read about it is through this sort of know-nothing journalistic filter.<p>They often focus on the &quot;kill a monster and it stays dead&quot; angle, so that seems like a real aspect of the system, but it&#x27;s not an advance. Other companies have aimed at this &quot;persistent virtual world-building toolkit&quot; target before, from Second Life to Blue Mars to Metaverse to Metaplace. What distinguishes Improbable from these other ideas?
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ComNikalmost 10 years ago
A bit more information can be found here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdixon.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;24&#x2F;improbable-enabling-the-development-of-large-scale-simulated-worlds&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdixon.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;24&#x2F;improbable-enabling-the-develop...</a><p>Too me it reads like MapReduce for highly place-dependent computations, whatever that looks like. Probably something along the lines of a distributed kd-tree with message passing at borders handled for you as well.
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Impossiblealmost 10 years ago
Improbable&#x27;s tech intrigues me, but I agree with many of the comments that technical information on how the actual tech works is limited, and most of the articles are puff pieces that focus on aspects of Bossa Studio&#x27;s game that have nothing to do with Improbable, the part about emergent gameplay for example. According to Glenn Fiedler (www.gafferongames.com) in his recent GDC talk on networking physics (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gdcvault.com&#x2F;play&#x2F;1022195&#x2F;Physics-for-Game-Programmers-Networking" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gdcvault.com&#x2F;play&#x2F;1022195&#x2F;Physics-for-Game-Programmer...</a>) this paper by Insomniac Games (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3cw3dd2w32x2b.cloudfront.net&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2011&#x2F;06&#x2F;introductiontosynchost.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3cw3dd2w32x2b.cloudfront.net&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;201...</a>) details a system similar to what Improbable is working on.<p>In this system the server is basically a distributed database and message passing system, and grants different clients authority over specific simulation objects or fields. If a client is the authority it runs the simulation logic for that object. As long as you can scale you message passing and db it seems like most work can be offloaded on clients, so complex simulation is &quot;free&quot;. I&#x27;d be concerned about cheating in more competitive games, but it should work well for social or creative games and for non-game simulation where you know clients are trustworthy.
dfbrownalmost 10 years ago
I read the entire 5 pages and I have absolutely no idea what this company is selling
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joelrunyonalmost 10 years ago
Here&#x27;s the one-page article - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;parmyolson&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;27&#x2F;improbable-startup-simulations&#x2F;print&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;parmyolson&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;27&#x2F;improbable...</a><p>Splitting this article into 5 pages to increase page views is really sad &amp; completely unneeded.
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cbennettalmost 10 years ago
vapid article but more than that the UI for actually getting through the story is awful. the recommended articles box above the much smaller &#x27;Continue&#x27; button, is particularly egregious.
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ckluisalmost 10 years ago
Ironic that this talks about modeling games for business and other use cases when I read <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.perworks.com&#x2F;my-son-has-23-6-billion-how-is-yours-doing&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.perworks.com&#x2F;my-son-has-23-6-billion-how-is-yours...</a> just a few minutes before on Hackernews. (the link is about building business models as games letting them loose and using the wisdom of the crowds to make decisions).
nemitekalmost 10 years ago
They have coded a large scale message passing system most likely using the actor pattern. For examples check out erlang or typesafe&#x27;s akka.
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troymcalmost 10 years ago
It&#x27;s worth noting that large-scale simulations are nothing new in the world of science. For example, consider the EAGLE simulation of the whole universe with realistic galaxies: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ljmu.ac.uk&#x2F;about-us&#x2F;news&#x2F;ari-creates-simulation-of-the-universe-with-realistic-galaxies" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ljmu.ac.uk&#x2F;about-us&#x2F;news&#x2F;ari-creates-simulation-...</a><p>Improbable seems to be different in that it&#x27;s aiming at the gaming market? But apparently they also have science clients? Maybe the difference is in their computational architecture, or cost?
M8almost 10 years ago
<i>&quot;The game was also built for a fraction of the usual cost. ... would typically take years and millions of dollars for a studio of Bossa’s size to build, but they did it in roughly a year and with just a core team of front-end developers.&quot;</i><p>vs<p><i>&quot;In their ground floor office on a bland-looking block in Farringdon, a team of about 60 engineers from MIT, Goldman Sachs and Google sit at $40 desks writing code...&quot;</i><p>Typical in gamedev :) (e.g. Unity Technologies):<p><i>&quot;“Eventually we realized the tech we were working on was bigger than the game,” says Whitehead.&quot;</i>
Enzolangellottialmost 10 years ago
They look incredibly nice and skilled though. Too bad I don&#x27;t possess a useful skillset nor an outstanding pedigree. Anyway, reporting verbatim their CEO &quot;We have created a world where there are no server boundaries&quot;, so I assume they managed to scale the instancing method seen in Guild Wars 2 (where overflowing players are divided among different ghost instances) into a single giant concurrent world.
jnolandalmost 10 years ago
Just becasue I learned about Worlds Adrift I&#x27;m glad I read this article.