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New Gotthard tunnel garners worldwide admiration

60 pointsby chkuendigalmost 10 years ago

11 comments

maptalmost 10 years ago
Hits on a pet idea of mine:<p>We have a major issue with rail transportation in the US. It&#x27;s most useful in cities in a grade-separated form, but it&#x27;s simultaneously the hardest to build in cities in a grade-separated form. The number of existing pipelines, power lines, traffic reroutes, building permits, and private property consents required to check out grows to dizzying levels of complexity.<p>One way to bypass this is to dig deep, <i>deep</i> tunnels. Tunnels far enough down that surface settling doesn&#x27;t occur, tunnels far enough down to bypass skyscraper pilings. To do this well, though, you need to construct as much of each station as possible in the tube itself, and only sink shafts down to that level, not whole horizontal rooms.<p>You can do that with a ~20m diameter TBM. You buy this monster of a machine for an exorbitant amount of money, and in exchange you get to leave the walls that it constructs in place, except for some vertical elevators and a vertical stairwell directly to the platform; No blasting, no extensive bit-by-bit excavation, no surface trenches, no access tunnels, no adjusting to separate mud and soil and rock. Just two tracks in a big tube with a bunch of space in between them, and maybe a second level for another pair with an express line.
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jsingletonalmost 10 years ago
Looks pretty impressive and to think some people say tunnelling is boring! It is and it isn&#x27;t. :)<p>In other news, Crossrail finished tunnelling today. Not as long as this but still a big project.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crossrail.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;prime-minister-and-mayor-of-london-celebrate-completion-of-crossrails-tunnelling-marathon" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crossrail.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;prime-minister-and-...</a>
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georgeglue1almost 10 years ago
What a strange article. Is there a translation or cultural context? The part about the Japanese &quot;los[ing] face&quot; or the reference to Russian civic culture are two of many puzzling bits.
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gaddersalmost 10 years ago
Meanwhile in London:<p>Crossrail tunnel already smells of urine<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailymash.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;society&#x2F;crossrail-tunnel-already-smells-of-piss-2015060498925" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailymash.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;society&#x2F;crossrail-tunnel-...</a>
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Animatsalmost 10 years ago
It&#x27;s a great project, but that article is a bit deceptive. The breakthrough video is from 2010. Official opening is a year away. The tunnels are finished, with track, power, and signaling almost ready.[1] But the connections to the railway system at both ends aren&#x27;t ready yet.<p>As tunnel projects go, it was a long drive, but not an unusually difficult one. Mostly hard rock, some water problems, but not too much water. Many tunneling projects are more about keeping the water out and the roof supported than digging.<p>Surprisingly, it was just a 4 TBM job, two tubes cut entirely from the ends. Although there are several vertical shafts down to emergency stations, those were not used as TBM starting points. Each TBM had to grind forward for almost 14 years.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alptransit.ch&#x2F;en&#x2F;status-of-the-work&#x2F;railway-infrastructure&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alptransit.ch&#x2F;en&#x2F;status-of-the-work&#x2F;railway-infr...</a>
noipv4almost 10 years ago
I see a countdown timer at the Bellinzona station. Edit. I think the first (regular PASSENGER) train&#x27;s going to run through the tunnel sometime in Dec 2016.
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jonahalmost 10 years ago
&quot;...the Gotthard base tunnel &#x27;broke all the rules&#x27; and the excavation was finished nearly a year ahead of schedule.&quot;<p>I&#x27;d like to know more about this.
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aselzeralmost 10 years ago
If they include the Koralm Tunnel on the list, which is under construction, they could as well add the Brenner Basis Tunnel (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Brenner_Base_Tunnel" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Brenner_Base_Tunnel</a>) :)<p>When completed, it will be the world&#x27;s second largest tunnel, only shorter than this one.
ZeroGravitasalmost 10 years ago
Is the water they talk about naturally warm? Is it because it&#x27;s deep within the earth that it is heated compared with surface water?
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smithkl42almost 10 years ago
Meanwhile, Seattle can&#x27;t figure out how to dig their tunnel more than a couple hundred yards without everything breaking down.
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ape4almost 10 years ago
It <i>is</i> admirable.