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Water evaporation-driven toy motor

36 pointsby trimble-alumalmost 10 years ago

8 comments

FiatLuxDavealmost 10 years ago
I was the only poster to the previous thread about this at: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9732609" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9732609</a>.<p>Here is what I wrote:<p>I also work in this space, so the headline caught my attention. This is far from the first. Some other evaporation driven engines include:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Drinking_bird" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Drinking_bird</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Energy_tower_%28downdraft%29" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Energy_tower_%28downdraft%29</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Barton_evaporation_engine" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Barton_evaporation_engine</a><p>The solar updraft tower and vortex engine also operate in a similar space, meaning that all of them operate using the temperature difference between ground and tropopause which feeds the water cycle.<p>It is my personal opinion that evaporation-driven engines (or something quite similar) are the most promising energy source (on this planet). Essentially, they are an alternative source of solar energy which doesn&#x27;t have the problem of needing the sunlight to be present to work.<p>The main issues, as with most new energy sources, are efficiency and cost. The Columbia motor costs $5 for 50 microW, or $1x10^5 dollars per watt. You generally want something nearer 1$&#x2F;watt for primary energy use. The efficiency in terms of water or thermal energy is not stated, but is likely similar to drinking birds, which have a thermal efficiency around 0.01%. The theoretically possible efficiency for the evaporative half of the water cycle is on the order of 12%, so there is a lot of room for improvement.
vixen99almost 10 years ago
“(Water)has a desire to evaporate&quot;. I wonder what other previously unappreciated emotions it has.
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Animatsalmost 10 years ago
Aw. Anyone still have a drinking bird?[1] Same principle.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Yk71GY02diY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Yk71GY02diY</a>
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murbard2almost 10 years ago
See also the rubber band heat engine, e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dBXL93984cQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dBXL93984cQ</a>
f00barbazb00almost 10 years ago
They&#x27;re using difference in humidity... wow, inventive.
sovaalmost 10 years ago
Wow this is amazing. I&#x27;m actually blown away.
rootlocusalmost 10 years ago
How much power can these motors produce? Can they be used for practical purposes, or are they simply a cool experiment?
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spiritplumberalmost 10 years ago
It looks like those discs-and-marbles perpetual motion machines... maybe that&#x27;s how those work (for a while).