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Russ Cox: Go, Open Source, Community

149 pointsby agonzalezroalmost 10 years ago

5 comments

EdiXalmost 10 years ago
I agree that a code of conduct is a great idea but I&#x27;m really bummed to read that the Django CoC is going to be adopted by golang.<p>1. The Django CoC uses very vague language on what it is forbidden and explicitly tells you that &quot;this isn’t an exhaustive list of things that you can’t do&quot; just to be extra vague in what constitutes unacceptable behaviour.<p>2. It does not define what process will be used to address CoC violations, being ejected from an OS project for violating the CoC can be a serious thing with personal and professional ramifications but an accused is not given the right to face their accuser nor the right to an impartial jury (which would be hard to do anyway since the accusation could be something like &quot;he&#x27;s making me anxious&quot;)<p>3. It overextends itself &quot;violations of this code outside these spaces may affect a person&#x27;s ability to participate within them&quot; which means that not only you are under the scrutiny of the kangaroo court when you are posting on golang spaces but everywhere else: ycombinator, reddit, your personal blog, etc. Honestly I feel like just writing this criticism is painting a target on my forehead, talk about safe spaces.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be making this comment if CoCs hadn&#x27;t already been used in bad faith to attempt to character assassinate OS contributors (for exmaple the Kubuntu debacle or this [1])<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;igurublog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;igurublog.wordpress.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;</a>
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egeozcanalmost 10 years ago
&gt; At the same time, Go&#x27;s static typing avoids much of the repetition of traditional statically typed languages<p>As a happy user of Go, I usually find myself writing slightly more code than C#. Maybe it&#x27;s because of the lack of generics or maybe it&#x27;s because that I have 10x more experience in C#. To me, it&#x27;s interesting to read this.
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0xdeadbeefbabealmost 10 years ago
Does the political climate in CA demand that people ignore subtle nuances about inclusiveness?<p>Linus said, &quot;...I&#x27;ve literally had developers who were working on things that I didn&#x27;t really like, but I didn&#x27;t shut down early enough. They worked on it for a long time; they felt that it was ready, they submitted it to me, and I said &quot;no this was horrible&quot; because at that point I had to make a decision. And at least in one of those cases I had some other friends basically email me later and saying &quot;the guy is suicidal&quot;.&quot; <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensource.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;395&#x2F;how-do-i-deal-with-enthusiastic-contributors-who-damage-more-than-they-help" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensource.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;395&#x2F;how-do-i-d...</a><p>I think you imply a CoC, and Russ&#x27;s style needs no improving. If you must adopt a CoC why don&#x27;t you assume people will behave badly and provide a workaround instead of relying on virtue.
codemacalmost 10 years ago
Was pleasantly surprised to see the veritably (at times) acidic rsc championing a code of conduct. Definitely will be beneficial to the community. I haven&#x27;t heard about any incident that has lead to a CoC being necessary, which is awesome.
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issariaalmost 10 years ago
Maybe Rob Pike can say something about this CoC thing. Don&#x27;t really like the way Russ does things.
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