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User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

79 pointsby lgp171188almost 10 years ago

12 comments

soapdogalmost 10 years ago
Let me clarify some things:<p>* There is no money involved in the Pocket thing.<p>* Pocket was added internally and not as an extension because it was easier.<p>* You don&#x27;t become a Pocket user simply by using Firefox, you need to actually use the feature.<p>* Mozilla helped Pocket create a new privacy policy<p>* If you don&#x27;t use it, then it is not doing you any harm. If somehow the presence of a button annoys you, then you can click the &quot;customize&quot; menu item and remove that button.<p>Firefox Hello is a collaboration, developed by Mozilla with help from Telefonica. Its videoconferencing without accounts. You don&#x27;t need to create any account and it doesn&#x27;t track you, how that is not good is beyond me.<p>The Pocket feature is really useful for those using it and harmless for those not using it. You can always remove the button or replace it with an add-on of your choice.<p>Instead of offering just a web view, Mozilla is trying to bundle features that the users find useful. None of the said features does you any harm if you don&#x27;t use them.<p>Before finishing this comment, let me leave you with a little nugget of advise: Less war and more dating. Instead of being a critic and combating every form of feature that somehow you dislike. Try to see how partnerships and opportunities make things better for everyone.Lots of people are loving the Pocket and Hello features and using them on a daily basis. Instead of removing features we can think of scenarios where they are useful and understand why they are there. And again, if you don&#x27;t like them, you can use the Customize feature to remove them from the toolbars.
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gaddersalmost 10 years ago
I can remember when the whole point of creating Firefox was as a response to a bloated Netscape that included an email client, newsreader, kitchen sink etc.<p>Now it seems they&#x27;re trying to bundle everything back in again.
blfralmost 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t understand the complaint here. Do people expect Mozilla to build everything themselves?<p>Reader View is a great feature that was clearly missing. Adding a third party sync to it is really no different from picking a default search engine to serve location bar entries.<p>Pocket is fine, best of the trio (Instapaper, Readability) IMHO. I actually switched to Pocket from Readability, which was getting buggier, a few weeks before it was integrated.<p>Getting all that while bringing revenue for Mozilla to support further development of Firefox is a win-win-win. Unlike Hello or &quot;Share This Page&quot; which I have never seen anyone use.
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mariusmgalmost 10 years ago
Mozilla is not a merry band of hackers anymore. They&#x27;re a bona fida corporation with its own agenda. Their agenda depends on having as many users as possible so they&#x27;re trying to make everything they can for that. The free web, choice and all that become second place now.<p>PS : Look at their corporate HQ.
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k-mcgradyalmost 10 years ago
When did they build in Pocket? I didn&#x27;t like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they&#x27;re getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn&#x27;t sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I&#x27;m wrong).
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SunShiranuialmost 10 years ago
I didn&#x27;t realize Pocket was a third-party service. Perhaps this should be made clear when updating Firefox.
Dysprosiumalmost 10 years ago
The thing with Pocket is that it&#x27;s basically an extension installed by default. This is the first time Mozilla does such a thing to Firefox, and this doesn&#x27;t please the community, including myself.<p>I though that the whole point of integrating a new feature is to really implement it into the software, where you can make it efficient and reliable, where you don&#x27;t rely on a third party to make it work and where users&#x27; data is bundled to their Firefox profile only.<p>If they think it was not worth it to implement it, then they could just label the extension &quot;featured&quot;, make a blog post to advice it to the community and call it a day. Otherwise they can just start integrating any popular extension, call it a new &quot;feature&quot; and defend themselves by saying that people use it so it&#x27;s important.
donatjalmost 10 years ago
Someone should fork Firefox with all this crap removed. Does IceWeasel have Pocket and Sync and such?
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lgp171188almost 10 years ago
Quoting the About page of the Mozilla Input site,<p>&quot;Firefox Input is Mozilla&#x27;s primary feedback mechanism for products.It is set up to be a method of one-way communication about your experiences in using our products, the Internet you view it through, and what Mozilla can do to make that experience better&quot;<p>So please provide do provide feedback on various Mozilla products on Mozilla Input and not just limit it to this Pocket integration.
h1fraalmost 10 years ago
These are mostly childish comment, not really HN worthy.
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realusernamealmost 10 years ago
Yes sure, It&#x27;s really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don&#x27;t like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I&#x27;m talking about).<p>So we can see that technical people (including me) don&#x27;t like so much this feature but it does not help to know if the average user is finding it useful, I would bet on my case average users are not even using it since you need to create a separate account, but anyway, we will see.<p>And also, in my opinion, Firefox became a great product by trying new things. And as always, when you change things, sometimes it does not work, sometimes you explore in other directions, you need to experiment a bit.<p>PS: Downvoting-me does not change these facts.
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DrinkWateralmost 10 years ago
This is a bit off-topic, but some of the user feedback (esp. in German) is really childish.