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CrunchPad Federal Lawsuit Filed; Some Additional Thoughts

93 pointsby andrewpbrettover 15 years ago

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grellasover 15 years ago
I have litigated a variety of "false promise" and breach of fiduciary cases on behalf of startups over the years and can share a few observations about what I see here (and I am seeing it literally for the first time, as I have not followed this story).<p>1. This obviously was an ill-documented relationship, though what is outlined in the complaint clearly suggests that it was either a joint venture of some type or at least something intended potentially to be a joint venture. When such a relationship is properly documented, all the associated issues - who is contributing what, who is getting what out of the arrangement, who owns the IP, etc. - are defined in the written documentation, typically a comprehensive written agreement signed by authorized representatives of both parties.<p>2. That said, opportunistic teaming happens all the time in the startup world and the absence of a carefully defined agreement is not necessarily fatal to a party's claim that a joint venture existed. A joint venture is a variation of partnership law (legally, it is a form of partnership by which the parties agree to do business jointly, and to share profits in some fashion, for a specific purpose, as opposed to a more general partnership by which they agree to do business together, and split profits, in connection with all their business activities). Technically, a joint venture (indeed, any partnership) can be based on a purely verbal arrangement or one that is verbal and supported by various written exchanges documenting some of the material terms of the arrangement, whether physically signed or not. To be a legally enforceable arrangement, the important thing is for the parties to have some clearly understood agreement, verbal or otherwise, specifying that they would be working together, and making their respective contributions, for a specific purpose whose ultimate goal was to split profits in some reasonably defined way as a result of their joint efforts.<p>3. While the formal requirements for a joint venture are not necessarily rigorous, and can be met even in a comparatively loose arrangement, one nonetheless must have <i>some</i> form of deal terms that can be said to be a reasonable meeting of the minds on some form of coherent business terms. The idea that "we agreed to work together," without more, does not make for an enforceable joint venture (or any form of contract). Moreover, even if there was a pretty good understanding that parties were to work together for a business purpose, if there is no understanding about who was to get what in exchange for what contribution, then it is almost certain that no form of enforceable agreement would be found.<p>4. Quite apart from whether a technical contract might be found to exist, the question of credibility also is crucial. That is, even if one party's story, if believed, would support the elements of a proper joint venture, there is the further question of whether that story is believable. On the facts alleged here, for example, why would TC, if it really did contribute major components of the software, hardware, funding, etc., do so without insisting that the parties have some form of written agreement documenting the terms of their venture? To me, this is the major flaw in a complaint of this type. It ultimately makes no sense for a reasonably sophisticated party to have, in effect, proceeded through multiple steps of a pretty complex transaction without proper documentation when, by its own admission, it knew quite a ways back that there were good grounds not to trust the party it was dealing with.<p>5. That said, the tactical goal of this complaint is to try to demonstrate that some form of enforceable joint venture existed (even if it is pretty shaky on its terms and in terms of believability) because that is the predicate for claiming breach of fiduciary duty on the part of the other "partner." If people really are doing business as partners, they do have fiduciary duties toward one another and can't engage in duplicitous tactics in their dealings with one another. Here, a secret plan on the part of one partner to appropriate the product of the parties' joint efforts would qualify as an illegal form of duplicity. If this can be proved, then the party misappropriating an opportunity or the IP belonging to the venture would have to account for its profits to the other party and would otherwise be legally exposed to substantial damage claims, even punitive damage claims.<p>6. If IP had been stolen here, though, the first action one would expect is for a party to be at the courtroom seeking to get a TRO and preliminary injunctive relief by which it asks the court to bar the other party from selling or distributing the product pending the trial in the lawsuit. That hasn’t happened here. Perhaps this is because, to get such relief, the moving party would need to demonstrate convincingly that it likely to prevail on the merits of its claims, and this something TC may not be able to do here.<p>7. On this score, the most telling thing that appears in the facts is the claim that TC had a deal because the CEO of the party it was negotiating with allegedly "agreed" to the terms of a merger in an email exchange. This sort of claim lies in the desperate category. Any merger of this type is highly complex, requires both board and shareholder approval, and is reasonably expected by all but the most unsophisticated parties to include, at a minimum, a detailed term sheet specifying what those terms are. For TC to claim that it had a "deal" on this score, based on statements made in a negotiation by the other party’s CEO, is exceedingly weak.<p>8. Thus, the legal aspects of this case would seem to come down to this: one party claims it had a deal and got betrayed while the other claims that there was no deal but "mere negotiations" which ultimately failed to lead to a binding agreement or arrangement between the parties. From a reading of the complaint, it would seem to be a difficult hurdle for TC to show that the terms of an enforceable deal are in place here. At the same time, there appears to be evidence of duplicity in the conduct of the other party and TC may have some claims to a form of remedy on account of having been misled by shark-like conduct on the other side. My intuitive sense, however: shark-like conduct likely occurred on both sides here and, if this is so, then TC will ultimately be left to stew in its own juices when this is all said and done.
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fjabreover 15 years ago
Ok so it seems a lot of people are eager to call out Arrington for being foolish here.. Hindsight is 20/20 and while it's clear TC and friends made some key mistakes let's not burn them at the cross like so many in this forum are doing..<p>I'm working in a startup with a Neurologist who has an appointment at Harvard and an MBA - no doubt he's a smart guy. Nevertheless that didn't really matter a few years ago when our startup was taken to the cleaners by cons.. With the best of intentions we planned a strategic partnership with a medical device company only to find out that several months later we were deliberately being led on and lied to by the CEO of said company while they worked on stealing and implementing our ideas and cutting us out of the deal..<p>We thought about a lawsuit but we just didn't have the funds to go through with it.. In the end it worked out for us because we had already had some successful partnerships with other device companies which kept us afloat. Also, the company who stole our ideas failed miserably..<p>Is it really too much to ask that everyone pointing/shaking their finger at TC and Arrington to give them the benefit of the doubt..? It's pretty obvious if you believe what he's saying about Fusion Garage and Chandra that these guys are accomplished liars.. It's a tough lesson to learn and I for one applaud Arrington for being open and transparent in this whole ordeal.. I'm sure this has been embarrassing enough for him and the TC team..
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specover 15 years ago
This confirms that they had no contracts - Arrington's "exhibits" are some blog posts and emails. This guy seriously used to be a lawyer? The initial price point was just an attempt to hype it up by Arrington, so this whole device would never be much anyway. BTW, Techcrunch is deleting any unfavorable comments on their blog, just as they have done many other times previously.
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anigbrowlover 15 years ago
OK. IANAL, but here's my opinion anyway, having read the suit and exhibits as filed:<p>FG had $500k in debt by end of June. To whom? We don't know. Chandra would have liked to sell FG to CP [crunchpad] and then pay off that debt in a subsequent round of capital-raising. Arrington and fellow investors did not want to buy a company with half a million in outstanding debt.<p>Another option was for TC to buy FG at a valuation of $3m and pay off the debt at the same time by converting it to equity, which was also undesirable since it would have diluted shareholding by 16%. We may infer that with 35% of CP shares going to FG and a further 16% converted from debt to equity, the upshot would have been that Arrington's investors would have only had a 49% stake, with the other 51% being held by FG's investors and creditors, obviously giving them control of the company.<p>So TC's offer was for FG to pay off its debt completely, in rturn for which its investors would get 35% of CP shares. Chandra indicated this was acceptable, but was unhappy about it as it would have meant giving up all of his personal equity in FG and $75,000 in cash (in order to satisfy FG creditors) and his only holding would be an option to acquire 11% of CP in a future round.<p>Chandra asked for a better deal but indicated that this option was acceptable to him if it was the only way. It is unclear from the emails (which are confusingly presented in reverse chronological order) what position, if any Arrington &#38; co. took in response to this offer. Since TC did not go ahead and buy FG, we may infer that the matter was placed on hiatus. I guess but do not assume that this was pending on FG's satisfaction of its creditors and getting back to a clean balance sheet.<p>By November, the awesomely-named Bruce Lee and his 2 co-investors considered FG to be worth $10m in its own right and valued TC's contribution at 10% of that for the Crunchpad name and Arrington's marketing effort, with Lee noting that Chandra had commended an offer of 25% of the shares in CP as payment for FG. It's unclear whether Arrington lowered the equity offer in exchange for taking on the debt, or whether the ~28% discount to the earlier offer represented Chandra's personal equity in FG; I suspect the former, suggesting that that CP planned to put down $2.5m in cash and absorb any outstanding debt in exchange for 75% of the equity, which would be fairly consistent with the negotiations in June.<p>Whew. So the upshot here is that Dr Lee is basically saying that he disbelieves Arrington/Crunchpad has brought $5m worth of product development and marketing clout to the table, but instead values their contribution at $1m (out of $10m cash that he and fellow investors are willing to put on the table). Additionally, he seems to feel like he is being hustled, considering the lack of a formal offer letter for the merger.<p>Seems to me that Dr Lee has decided to see the color of Arrington's money by raising the cash stakes considerably; suddenly Fusion Garage [in the sense of its largest shareholder] is offering to gobble up Crunchpad and pay Arrington off with a job rather than the other way round. Arrington's blogged thoughts refer to FG's poor financial position, but gloss over the fact that its investors have $10m on hand (which appears to be about 4x what Arrington had lined up).<p>The plaintiffs seem to argue that Fusion Garage is only alive because of the good will invested by Arrington/Crunchpad and would have died otherwise; I presume the defendant's argument will be that this was never the case, that FG had entered into the project in a spirit of partnership rather than supplication, and that any monies advanced by Crunchpad to FG's creditors were a matter of mutual convenience. The case seems to turn on the degree of innovation provided to the project by Arrington/CP: and looking at some of their claims, they seem pretty thin (eg suggesting web pages are bettered rendered against white background, or the use of large icons to select favorite sites, both of which the defendant will claim to be obvious prior art).<p>Prediction: it won't go to trial, Fusion Garage will settle with Arrington for $1.5-2.5m and both sides will declare victory. Arrington will keep the name and claim moral high ground and return something to his investors, FG will end up free of encumbrances and with a commitment of future silence from TechCrunch about the company and its products.
andrewcookeover 15 years ago
has this got to the point where we can start using "crunchpad" to mean "a godawful mess" or similar?<p>as in "i wanted to grow organically; he wanted a big marketing push: it ended in a total crunchpad". or "someone didn't tighten the nuts; front driverside wheel came off on a mountain road: complete crunchpad". or "flock of birds triggered a false alarm; first strike; automated response: crunchpad".<p>it happened with cuil, i'm sensing the same promise here....
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steerpikeover 15 years ago
I posted the following comment on the techcruch blog but it got deleted. Not sure why exactly, I think it's a fairly valid question to ask.<p>"So you apparently found out that your business partner was pretty shady last summer but you chose to not reveal that obviously newsworthy information to readers, why exactly?<p>Just wondering why readers should be considering techcruch a newsworthy source if such an obvious conflict of interests results in you coming down on the side that benefits you the most?"
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whalesaladover 15 years ago
While I've started to lean more against Fusion Garage in this battle for the CrunchPad, I still think that TechCrunch is equally to blame for choosing such a shady group to work with.<p>Arrington states that he has known for a long while (as steerpike pointed out) that Fusion Garage has been in such shambles, and claims he isn't "just a blog" and has made significant (and/or the majority of) contributions to the CrunchPad. If both of these are true, why the hell didn't he pull out on Fusion Garage early on and go with someone else?<p>You supposedly have the idea, the investors, the retail channels lined up, etc... so why is Fusion even an issue? I call shenanigans here...
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scott_sover 15 years ago
Two things. First, if Arrington can produce the physical prototype that TC developed on its own, that would be a big deal to me. But he'd still have to establish that the device Fusion Garage is producing used IP from their prototype.<p>Second, I can see this happening. Arrington has an idea for a tablet. He comes up with the basic idea and rough specs. Fusion Garage goes and implements it. In Arrington's view, the device is partly his because he had the original idea. In Fusion Garage's view, the device is all theirs because they did all of the work to create it. Both think the device is "theirs" because they underestimate the contribution of the other.<p>Arrginton really needs to establish what exactly they did, and demonstrate that it made it into the final device. I'm not sure what his actual contributions are from the claim; coming up with the specs isn't a big deal to me. (Note I'm talking morally and ethically, not legally - as always, I am not a lawyer.)
ErrantXover 15 years ago
<i>What they won’t have is cash flow to build the devices.</i><p>FG have said they have devices built or building haven't they? I wonder which is true - my guess is a small inventory, hence the pre-sale.<p><i>Chandra and Fusion Garage have shown a long term pattern of deceit in their business dealings. </i><p>Dear god.... why oh why did he deal with them? (or continue to deal with them)<p>If the lined up investors, guys who make a <i>living</i> in picking horses to back, were worried why didn't Arrington listen to their concerns<p>And after a brief scan through I dont see any/many mention of contracts or agreements between TC and FG. As we said before that is a basic mistake - and it looks like it is one that was actually made :(<p>Personally I am coming down slowly on TC's side: Fusion Garage are screwing about.<p>However the one thing I <i>am</i> certain about now is that I would definitely never go into business with or invest in Arrington. He's destroyed any reputation he had as an investor / businessman for me.<p>Shambles.
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awolfover 15 years ago
Arrington contributed "blueprints" of the device? Does he mean schematics and a bill of materials? Or does he mean pictures that he drew himself?<p>If he means pictures then I've got some rockin' time machine blueprints for sale. Hit me up...
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viraptorover 15 years ago
Point 7 is... interesting. Like the whole post really. It lists a lot of facts about TC helping in CP development, working out some details, assuring commercial support. But that's pretty much it. They have some emails, but that's still not really formal.<p>I may be mistaken of course, but it looks like they do not have any formal document that says anything about their ownership of the project. Sure - they helped out the project, or even produced the blueprints, but do they have a proper contract saying what do they get in exchange? Afaik there's no law stopping me from creating a device based on someone else's not patented blueprints (otherwise people writing RFCs would own a lot of software they didn't write).
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Chiragover 15 years ago
Mr. Arrington and nice folks at TC seem to be removing any HN related comments for some reason. Strange.
ggruschowover 15 years ago
I know it hurts, but the baby is dead. He needs to bury it, mourn in private, heal, and move on.<p>Litigation won't bring him happiness, wealth, a good reputation, or even closure. In fact, all this lashing out will do the opposite.<p>If he just shuts up about them, they'll very likely disappear like all the other &#62;year-late, &#62;100% over-budget buggy gadgets without major marketing, funding, or innovation.
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pavsover 15 years ago
I smiled when he tried to defend being labeled as techcrunch being just a blog.<p>The sad truth is while techcrunch does "other things", its main operation is being a weblog, as posted in its about section:<p>"TechCrunch was founded on June 11, 2005, as a weblog dedicated to obsessively profiling and reviewing new Internet products and companies. In addition to covering new companies, we profile existing companies that are making an impact (commercial and/or cultural) on the new web space.<p>TechCrunch has now grown into a network of technology focused sites offering a wide range of content and new media."<p>In its literal sense Techcrunch is anything but tech blog, more precisely is covers a subset of technology, which is mainly the business aspect of "online technology". A tech blog in it's truest sense would be Arstechnica or Engadget or even gizmodo. TC's tech writing depth goes as far as reporting "twitter being down for 30secs". Their writers couldn't tell their ass from their mouth if you were to ask them a simple question as to point out the underlying technical similarities between safari and chrome.<p>As much as I love hacker news, I am often troubled by some of our fascination towards techcrunch as a source for tech news. TC is often posted 4-5 times a day here on the front page.<p>Utter rubbish example #1:<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/11/google-code-freeze/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/11/google-code-freeze/</a><p>example #2:<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/10/playboy-iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/10/playboy-iphone/</a><p>example #3:<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/10/facebook-is-totally-down/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/10/facebook-is-totally-dow...</a><p>Those are in last 24 hours...
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jarsjover 15 years ago
So I tried going over all the emails, docs posted over techcrunch and here are some thoughts. I do wonder why is no popular blogger/journalist out there taking Fusion Garage's side and highlighting these points ?<p>These are entirely my interpretations and personal thoughts. Happy to be corrected.<p>- From emails its clear that Chandra is desperate, to be either acquired by Tech-crunch or raise some money. Poor guy is under loan, has to pay vendors, salaries. There is no contract because then techcrunch would have to invest and hence share the risks and put in some real money. If its their joint venture why haven't they done that ?<p>- Michael is aware of chandra's talking to other investors. He jointly owns the product, but wouldn't let his lined-up investors come and help chandra out. Doesn't he know that when investors come they do have some say in how company should run ?<p>- The blueprint shit. Come-on. I have a time-machine blue print. Anyone building it ?<p>- Michael says FG is in trouble, has no money even to defend lawsuit. Now if this was a joint venture started by Michael, how did it come to this ?<p>- Many are now suggesting Techcrunch to take their blue print and Crunchpad name and get the hardware done by someone else. Isn't this what FG did ? Too their hardware and got a new name ?<p>To me its clear that Chandra thought of Michael as an potential investor and discussed details hoping to get acquired. He also talked to several other investors, who agreed to invest under some conditions they deemed fair. Chandra, desperate enough, went ahead. Doesn't this happen all the time ? What's the fuss. Its only unfair that FG is being projected in such a wrong light.
vijayrover 15 years ago
Point 6: <i>Much of the key intellectual property, including the board and much of the mechanicals, is owned by Pegatron, the manufacturing arm of Asus.</i><p>Point 7: <i>The entire blueprint of the device was created by me.</i><p>I don't exactly understand what he means by this. He created the blue print but someone else owns the IP? And what exactly is a blue print, in this case? Just saying what the device needs to do/look? Isn't that <i>too easy</i> to do?
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markerdmannover 15 years ago
This saga reminds of Warren Buffet's advice to invest only in businesses that possess "excellent business economics and an outstanding manager."<p>In my business we've conducted several off-shoring experiments, and they have largely failed to realize a significant return. The lesson I learned from observing and assisting in those experiments is that the secret sauce in business is reputation. Finding people who are honest, reliable, and intelligent can be very difficult. When you find people like that, "grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel." If, like Michael Arrington, you wander into an industry with nothing but your hubris to guide you, you'll most likely be taken for a ride.
petercooperover 15 years ago
Arrington fan here, so this is very tongue in cheek but.. Arrington didn't comply with UK libel law when Sethi filed his ridiculous lawsuit saying that the UK's laws didn't affect him, so I wonder if these other guys will try and claim US lawsuits don't apply to them over in Singapore? :-)<p>I guess even if they did that, it'd be the nail in the coffin for ever getting the device sold in the US though.
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uuillyover 15 years ago
A very successful CEO told me that contracts were just a formality. If you don't trust the other party to do their end you should not be doing business with them. Sounds like there was a lot of reason not to trust the Fusion Garage guys.
davidwover 15 years ago
&#62; Their main shareholder, the guy who wrote the now infamous email telling us that we were no longer part of the project, is a chiropractor named Bruce Lee.<p>Reminds me of 'The Dentist' from Cryptonimicon.
joubertover 15 years ago
This is fascinating.<p>Why didn't TC &#38; these guys set up a legal person in which to jointly conduct their business?<p>Or was TC just effectively the marketer for this company?