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Show HN: Cloudron – Get Your Own Cloud

64 pointsby nebulonalmost 10 years ago

12 comments

condescendencealmost 10 years ago
Site looks great, the video down the bottom has a pricing model in it, and the sites does not. From the looks of it, the price model in the video was just set for development reasons because it&#x27;s listing at $0.2&#x2F;month.<p>I would fix this, you don&#x27;t want to give people any wrong ideas about your price model if you haven&#x27;t finalized it yet.<p>The software and setup ease, from what I&#x27;m able to read, seems pretty nifty. There&#x27;s a good product here just be careful not to sell yourself short.<p>From a product identification point of view, I think it would be good for you to list the specifications (at least hard drive space for example) of the VPS you&#x27;re using in the backend. It would only make sense especially for some of the apps you want to provide such as OwnCloud which is basically to stores files and such.<p>These were just some thoughts from a first look at the site, take them with a grain of salt.
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dochtmanalmost 10 years ago
I don&#x27;t really understand this. &quot;Private Cloud&quot;, to me, means a cloud that only I have access too. If you actually have access to my infrastructure, what&#x27;s &quot;private&quot; about it?
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jedisct1almost 10 years ago
Looks very similar to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sandstorm.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sandstorm.io&#x2F;</a>
ams6110almost 10 years ago
How is this not just a regular VPS with the word &quot;cloud&quot; nailed on?
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nickpsecurityalmost 10 years ago
Rule of thumb: mutually distrusting users sharing physical resources typically creates vulnerabilities. Do everything right and you still have covert channels. So long as they use <i>physical</i> separation rather than virtual then I&#x27;m excited to see this development. Separation that&#x27;s (a) physically isolated per customer and (b) behind a stable interface allow the specifics of the security to constantly improve without work on the customer&#x27;s end while blocking risks that come with virtualization.<p>See the co-founder in the comments. nebulon, would you clarify if it&#x27;s physical and how do the boxes interface at the networking layer? That would be a start on upper-bounds of security.
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sirspuddalmost 10 years ago
The video does look cool. I keep on intending to use my primary Linux dev box as an outwards facing web server, but every time I take steps towards this, I realize how much I would be dropping my shorts in the process.<p>You people should be targeting professional photographers, smug mug and friends offer really limited functionality to content owners who really should control their own material.
nebulonalmost 10 years ago
Hi everyone, co-founder here. We are now in developer beta. Please request an invite if you would like to develop Cloudron apps. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cloudron.io&#x2F;documentation.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cloudron.io&#x2F;documentation.html</a>
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nickpsecurityalmost 10 years ago
Just did some research. Turns out there is a combo of physical servers and cloud-style provisioning&#x2F;pricing: it&#x27;s called bare metal clouds. Gotta watch it as some say that but are virtual. Here&#x27;s one I found that&#x27;s physical:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.softlayer.com&#x2F;bare-metal-servers" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.softlayer.com&#x2F;bare-metal-servers</a><p>The physical separation is a prerequisite for any real security as you need control over what executes in the box and definitely don&#x27;t want untrusted processes sharing resources outside of what&#x27;s already in TCB. Combining a rapid-provisioning, paid-hourly, physical hosting solution with strong privacy policies (e.g. MyKolab&#x27;s) and terms of service backed by contract would be <i>an awesome offing</i> for a niche market.<p>The niche, off top of head, is essentially two groups: (a) people needing temporary and&#x2F;or scalable resources for operation on private data; (b) people wanting steady, scalable, private servers who don&#x27;t want to go all out on running their own. Category (b) would put the physical cloud in competition with with dedicated, hosting market. Potential advantages are manageability, scaling, cost reduction due to pay-per-use, and integration with popular cloud tech (eg Docker) pre-installed on that server. So, anyone looking for a business plan to submit to YCombinator feel free to do an assessment of this market as I think it has potential. The existence of the above company confirms that but I can&#x27;t say how big this niche is.
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zodPodalmost 10 years ago
What are you guys looking at price-wise for these tiers? Kind of annoying that you don&#x27;t even attempt to list them.
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simonturveyalmost 10 years ago
Great to see this launched at last. Congratulations guys! Good luck.
kilimchoialmost 10 years ago
Looks good!<p>Great Job!
vishalzone2002almost 10 years ago
a hypervisor is the only private cloud :)