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The Birth of Standard Error (2013)

81 pointsby nazri1almost 10 years ago

4 comments

contingenciesalmost 10 years ago
See also <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.princeton.edu&#x2F;~bwk&#x2F;202&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.princeton.edu&#x2F;~bwk&#x2F;202&#x2F;</a> for further information about early work (reverse engineering!) at Bell Labs on typesetting machines, and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;haagens.com&#x2F;oldtype.tpl.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;haagens.com&#x2F;oldtype.tpl.html</a> for general phototypesetting history, featuring gems like: <i>There was a romantic tradition, in [the US] at least, of the drifter Typesetters, who were good enough at the craft to find work wherever they traveled. They&#x27;d work in one town until they wanted a change and then drift on. They had a reputation for being well read, occasionally hard drinking, strong union men who enjoyed an independence particularly rare in the 19th century.</i>[0]<p>It&#x27;s amazing how interlinked typesetting and computing are. Here we have a <i>troff</i> link, then there&#x27;s the <i>PDF</i> (from <i>postscript</i>) and <i>TeX</i> world, keyboard layouts, telegrams, rotating drums and early mechanical cryptography, etc.<p>If anyone&#x27;s interested in good collections on the history of printing, I can recommend both the Museum of Printing and Graphic Communication (<i>Musée de l’imprimerie et de la communication graphique</i>) in Lyon, France[1] and the National Technical Museum (<i>Národní technické muzeum</i>) in Prague, Czech Republic,[2] which also sports the best permanent exhibition on the history of photography I have ever seen (by a long shot). For those of you in California, there&#x27;s also the International Printing Museum[3] in Carson (open 10-4PM Saturdays).<p>[0] Added to &#x27;Hackers of History&#x27; section of my fortune clone @ <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;globalcitizen&#x2F;taoup" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;globalcitizen&#x2F;taoup</a><p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imprimerie.lyon.fr&#x2F;imprimerie&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imprimerie.lyon.fr&#x2F;imprimerie&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ntm.cz&#x2F;en" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ntm.cz&#x2F;en</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.printmuseum.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.printmuseum.org&#x2F;</a>
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grealmost 10 years ago
Unix stderr not <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Standard_error" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Standard_error</a>
pflanzealmost 10 years ago
I wasn&#x27;t aware that Microsoft Windows supported a stderr filehandle separate from stdout. When I worked a little on it about 17 years ago, I thought it didn&#x27;t have that (e.g. warnings from Perl were intermixed with redirected stdout or so). Did I misinterpret something or has the system been changed?<p>(Edit: that was longer ago than I first remembered; it was on Windows NT.)
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kylebgormanalmost 10 years ago
But, where did you read standard error during the teletype era? Was it printed to a separate tape?
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