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Calendars, Contacts and Files in Stalwart

131 pointspar gpiil y a 5 jours

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rossyil y a 4 jours
I checked my repo to see which Stalwart version I was running and if I could update, and I was surprised to find that the Arch package has been deleted due to FOSS licensing concerns[1], the most severe of which seems to be that Stalwart can no longer build without proprietary code[2]. Other smaller issues include the fact that the web admin interface isn&#x27;t included in the source distribution, but is downloaded from GitHub on first run, and _also_ seems to contain proprietary code[3].<p>These issues, which would be showstoppers for a real free software project, and pretty easy to fix if you were the rightsholder of the code, were promised to be fixed &quot;in a few weeks&quot; in September last year, and &quot;in a few months&quot; in January this year, however they&#x27;re still not fixed, which means I can&#x27;t upgrade - not that I probably want to anymore. I truly believe in free software, so I find the idea of using &quot;open source&quot; as an empty marketing bullet-point for at least eight months to be fairly distasteful. Might be time to switch to Maddy.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.archlinux.org&#x2F;archlinux&#x2F;packaging&#x2F;packages&#x2F;stalwart-mail-server&#x2F;-&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.archlinux.org&#x2F;archlinux&#x2F;packaging&#x2F;packages&#x2F;st...</a> [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;stalwartlabs&#x2F;stalwart&#x2F;issues&#x2F;783">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;stalwartlabs&#x2F;stalwart&#x2F;issues&#x2F;783</a> [3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.archlinux.org&#x2F;archlinux&#x2F;packaging&#x2F;packages&#x2F;stalwart-mail-server&#x2F;-&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1#note_211407" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.archlinux.org&#x2F;archlinux&#x2F;packaging&#x2F;packages&#x2F;st...</a>
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lb_il y a 4 jours
I really like where Stalwart is going, but I am quite hesitant to use it when basically all commits are authored by a single person. What would happen if he abandons the project or disappears?
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franga2000il y a 3 jours
I applaud the technical achievement, but I fear this is the kind of feature creep that kills projects. There were quite a few open source &quot;groupware&quot; projects that are now close to forgotten because what people really needed was a [email server] that integrated nicely with their existing [files,office,ticketing...], but the &quot;groupware&quot; options were too tightly bundled and hard to integrate.<p>Swap the brackets for any feature and you&#x27;ll probably find a &quot;suite&quot; that did that thing the best, but ultimately failed because it wasn&#x27;t the best at everything else too.<p>Nextcloud already has calendar, contacts and especially files covered quite well, but it can&#x27;t be configured to use external providers for those. Anyone who wants a complete self-hosted solution (everything from federated file shares to web forms, collaborative editing, appointments, tasks...) will definitely want to stick with Nextcloud, so they&#x27;ll have to turn off all these new features.<p>I just worry that with time, this will become another &quot;all in one&quot; suite that does one or even a few things reeeally well (email), but is too annoying to properly integrate with everything else.<p>Yes, Nextcloud is also in danger of becoming that, but they&#x27;ve done a very good job of moving things into optional extensions and giving you plenty of integration options for plugging in external software. It&#x27;s very good at being the hub that other things plug into, but you can&#x27;t have two hubs...
matjail y a 4 jours
This is interesting because Stalwart has a built-in clustering feature and can use distributed databases as its storage layer, so you get high-availability options out of the box. I&#x27;ve struggled with doing similar HA on Dovecot, never quite being true HA (for the open source version of Dovecot) for a while and never found a good other open source option.
hatzzil y a 4 jours
I’ve always found stalwart interesting but have been a bit sceptical due to the main developer being quite anonymous. It seems that there is a company behind it as well &quot;Stalwart Labs&quot; but I cannot find information about it either, no linkedin and no people. I might just be used to openess as in devs not being anonymous though.
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mjl-il y a 4 jours
Congrats on the release! Having calendaring (and address book) along with your email makes it easy to run your own self-hosted PIM infrastructure.
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throw_a_grenadeil y a 4 jours
What is the reason to pick Stalwart over Nextcloud? Nextcloud also has calendars, contacts, files, and integrated mail client. And a reasonably sized ecosystem of apps.
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pluto_modadicil y a 5 jours
glad the focus returns to this instead of ML stuff.
FlamingMoeil y a 5 jours
Cool! I love anything in the direction of email decentralization.
npodbielskiil y a 3 jours
Wow that is great looking project. I am running mailcow currently but single application that can almost do the same is very tempting.
jazzyjacksonil y a 5 jours
NLnet out here funding another banger