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The Who Cares Era

688 pointspar NotInOurNamesil y a 3 jours

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0_____0il y a 3 jours
I was just kvetching about this to my partner over breakfast. Not exactly, but a parallel observation, that a lot of people are just kind of shit at their jobs.<p>The utility tech who turned my tiny gas leak into a larger gas leak and left.<p>The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?)<p>Cops who have decided it&#x27;s their job to do as little as possible.<p>Where I live, it seems like half the streets don&#x27;t have street signs (this isn&#x27;t a backwater where you&#x27;d expect this, it&#x27;s Boston).<p>I made acquaintance to a city worker who, to her non-professional friends, is very proud that she takes home a salary for about two hours of work per day following up with contractors, then heading to the gym and making social plans.<p>There&#x27;s a culture of indifference, an embrace of mediocrity. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s new, but I do think perhaps AI has given the lazy and prideless an even lower energy route to... I&#x27;m not sure. What is the goal?
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buangakunil y a 3 jours
Oh man, I gotta write a comment here. I&#x27;m gonna leave out a few details in case this guy or my tech lead&#x2F;manager read HN.<p>So, I am senior software engineer, got hired into this company. I was tasked by my manager&#x2F;tech lead to work with another senior software engineer.<p>Overtime I realized that this engineer did not have the proper background in this field. I asked him and I asked my tech lead, and confirmed he did not have background in this field. This guy just roped into this project and stayed.<p>I sent him articles, tutorials, and even documentations that say so and so is so and so, but he refused to believe it and said it was just my opinion. I even offered to work on these problems instead of him. But we ended up getting into heated arguments. I talked to my tech lead and my VP and they just brushed me off. It got so bad that I asked to be transferred to a different team.<p>I also realized later that my tech lead was not as technically competent as I hoped to be, so that&#x27;s why he couldn&#x27;t make a decision.<p>Anyway, I asked Reddit and TeamBlind how to best deal with this kind of situation. (In those forums I actually described exactly what were the problems)<p>To my surprise, a lot of them, 99% of the answers go along these lines &quot;Who the fuck cares man, just get your paycheck and go home, what an idiot&quot;. These are highly paid FAANG engineers.<p>So, that was my wake up call. They were right. Who the fuck cares. Just get my paycheck and go home, and work on other stuffs, work on side projects, side hustle, and go Leetcode.<p>I was 8 years too late into the industry to know that this should be my default attitude when working.<p>Now I am in &quot;Who The Fuck Cares&quot; club.
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softfalconil y a 3 jours
The hardest thing to do in life is to care.<p>It&#x27;s easy to not care, anything bad can happen and you can blissfully wash your hands of it. You don&#x27;t care, so it doesn&#x27;t matter.<p>I remember being a teenager, my defense against anything bad that happened to me was, &quot;I don&#x27;t care&quot; with a snide attitude. I was lying, I did care, but I built up a mindset that not caring about anything made me stronger.<p>As an adult, I know this is wrong. Caring requires strength. Caring is hard. That&#x27;s why we need to do it.<p>I recently had a conversation with a friend who is now no longer my friend. He said, &quot;so, what you&#x27;re saying is, you go out of your way to try and deeply understand as much of everything as you can?&quot;<p>I answered, &quot;Yes. Being curious about others, issues outside of myself, and the world around me, is in my opinion, a moral good.&quot;<p>His only response was, &quot;that&#x27;s not for me, that sounds exhausting.&quot;<p>We started the conversation because he was openly making fun of other people who were not like him. He thought it was okay to laugh at other people for being different. To mock others if their differences were amusing to him.<p>His lack of curiosity, his lack of caring for others made him a repulsive person. Be careful what you choose to &quot;not care&quot; about.
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gilbetronil y a 3 jours
The future is gone. I&#x27;m in my 50s, and for nearly all of that time I thought, dreamt, and worked towards a future that I read about, researched, talked to others about, and consumed media about. But over the past several years I realize it is gone. I thought maybe it was just my age, but it seems like the world is doing the same, so maybe not my age. Another thread mentions that no one talks about &quot;life in the 22nd century&quot;. People are focused on what&#x27;s in front of them in the present. Even companies don&#x27;t really talk about the future anymore, just vague AI thoughts (and often crazy negative ones, witness the CEOs talking about the white collar bloodbath coming).<p>Things aren&#x27;t really changing in many ways, but changing crazy fast in other ways, but not toward anything in particular. Maybe it is some sort of singularity-type thing approaching that I&#x27;m feeling. All I know is that my life hasn&#x27;t changed much in the past decade. Smartphones, awesome computers, instead streams of videos, a sea of video games and books and music, but nothing new and remarkable. AI is here, probably, but that is just weird and terrifying, and this coming from someone that has watched and participated in it&#x27;s development the entirety of my adult life.<p>Instead of new categories being created, we&#x27;re just optimizing the hell out of everything.
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naming_the_useril y a 3 jours
People tend to care when they feel that they are being given a good deal.<p>In my experience (UK), people are usually more pleasant in smaller towns, and I ascribe that to, well, the cost of living is lower relative to their wage, they probably have a decent flat or a small house at least, maybe a car, etc.<p>In London if you work in a coffee shop then you either have a well off partner or you are in some shoebox counting your pennies to make the bus fare, your life is just stressful and you don&#x27;t feel like an equal to the person on the other side of the counter.
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bloomingeekil y a 3 jours
It&#x27;s the dumbing down of society, but the worst of it is concerning the average &quot;Joe and Jane&quot; in America. Why is it the worst, because they are a huge voting block.<p>I&#x27;m a high school grad who had no desire to go to college, but I&#x27;ve always had a love of reading and usually questioned everything. I made a living in the trades and have very little complaints. I worked with hundreds of people, both young and old, and noticed something most had in common. Most cared very little for learning anything outside of just getting by. I saw very few with a book in their hands and was questioned many times as to why I was reading! I was even told I would never need to know that, when reading about technology.<p>I&#x27;m trying not to be overly critical, but I still don&#x27;t understand why knowledge to them wasn&#x27;t valued. I&#x27;m also afraid it&#x27;s being reflected in society today based on the blatant refusal to read today&#x27;s happenings and the lack of wisdom to interpret the possible outcomes, or to even care.
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toleranceil y a 3 jours
Where I think that pieces like this fall short at are identifying what they think people should &quot;care&quot; about and why these things matter.<p>For example,<p>* Who cares that those newspapers ran AI-generated reading lists when the actual people who represent the newspapers <i>wouldn&#x27;t actually be the ones recommending the books anyway</i>?<p>(People who make things that you read aren&#x27;t reading themselves.)<p>* Why <i>should</i> people care to fund or listen to audio deep-dives into the Multiverse or a middle-aged man&#x27;s memoir about when he was 12 and he heard songs?<p>* Why <i>shouldn&#x27;t</i> people submit boilerplate responses to boilerplate questions that are an artificial barrier between them and what is contemporarily accepted as a socioeconomic exchange?<p>I wonder if there&#x27;s anything that the author can draw from their experiences in punk culture to round out the answers the questions like this.<p>We are flailing in the middle of a long-running vacuum of meaning and purpose.<p>I worry about the sort of people who are set at ease by the vague quasi-institutional appeals that conclude this post.
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fhennigil y a 3 jours
People do care, about their own self interest and making money. Homo economicus, here we are! A critique of this attitude must look at its origins, and I think the reason we see this so much, is because the narrative of the last 40 years or so has been that: If we all look out for our own self interest, the market will balance everything out, and things will be great! Turns out, doing the bare minimum in an almost maliciously compliant way doesn&#x27;t yield great results, who could&#x27;ve seen it coming?
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sam-cop-vimesil y a 3 jours
It comes down to what is &quot;popular&quot; culture.<p>When I was young, society presented mostly people with intellectual achievements as role models which spurred a generation to strive. Hard work, humility, respect for others were actively inculcated into the growing generation. Children had few external influences other than their immediate circle of family, friends, neighbours and the school community.<p>Now we have reality TV stars parading their frankenstein bodies and the hype generated by social media as major influences for children growing up today.<p>Spelling a word correctly is harder than letting our apps auto-correct it for us. Playing a video game takes less physical effort than venturing out to a playground. Heating and eating a ready-meal takes less effort than cooking something.<p>I read somewhere that every augmentation is also an amputation. Progress in tech means we are constantly lobotomising a majority of the population. We in the tech community are partly responsible for this.<p>I don&#x27;t know what the solution is - but I guess what the author suggests is a good start. Start caring.
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dmjeil y a 3 jours
On the one hand I’m nodding along and have a bunch of links bookmarked about the - for want of a better phrase - “trend to mediocrity”. It’s true that the median is where everything goes if you feed the beast the most average stuff you can find, there’s no doubt about it.<p>On the other, there are many, many examples of artists and musicians and museums and galleries and others who are - still, always have been, always will be - making extraordinary, brilliant, unique, beautiful things. There’s not a day goes by on HN that I don’t see stuff that fits this mold.<p>I think there’s actually extraordinary opportunity here, to continue making things that are great and unique and rough around the edges and cared for. The author sums it up well: but I’m not sure the scene is quite as dire as he’s making out at the beginning of the article.
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sharadovil y a 3 jours
I think 90% of people did not ever care, this is not new.<p>They pretended to care because it looked bad if they did not.<p>But when you started talking seriously about effecting change ( in context to workplace situations), they would diplomatically excuse themselves.<p>That&#x27;s why I avoid big corporations where this behavior is endemic.<p>I mostly worked at smaller companies and left when they got too big.
elricil y a 3 jours
When I do things for myself, I cut every corner until everything is spherical. But when I do things for others, I get joy from doing good work. Half-arsing something makes me feel ashamed. Not everything I do is done well, motivation waxes and wanes, sometimes I&#x27;m ill or tired or stressed. But then I try to do things as well as possible given the circumstances. I would hope that most people try to do the same.
try_the_bassil y a 3 jours
I don&#x27;t think I agree with this.<p>As someone who has cared deeply about sometimes esoteric things, I&#x27;ve found that caring is actually the shortest path to being _hated_, mostly by other people who care about the same things but for different reasons.<p>The best thing I did for my own sanity was to stop caring so much.<p>But this is still the case. One of the things I care the most about is having a consistent moral framework. I care less about the specifics of that framework; everyone&#x27;s is slightly different, and I think that&#x27;s a good thing overall. However, I do care that people apply their own frameworks consistently, and when they don&#x27;t, I call them out on it.<p>Still mostly just ends up with me on the receiving end of a lot of hate.<p>Which is ironic, given that in my experience, the worst of it had come from people whose moral framework is presumably incompatible with hate!<p>I care deeply about that, too, and it&#x27;s really not healthy for me.
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superultrail y a 3 jours
I think a better term for it is the “we’re cooked era.” I see this phrase everywhere, in relation to AI, in relation to national politics, in relation to big problems like climate change. It’s really demoralizing because it’s a passive acquiescence to systemic change as if we have no control over anything. Which will inevitably lead to entropy.<p>If there’s one book I could “force” everyone to read, it’d be the Dawn of Everything. The David’s (Graeber and Wingrow) describe how the fundamentally most interesting attribute of humans is how much we tinker.<p>I love this article because it shares those same values. It’s so crucial for us to reject abject passivity and even when things seem impossible, to tinker and play and never assume that everything is as it will be.
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sznioil y a 3 jours
&gt;Until I read an application written entirely by a person. And then another. And another. They glowed with delight and joy and sadness and with the unexpected at every turn.<p>These are the people who had their applications rejected elsewhere since the AI didn&#x27;t like them. I use ChatGPT to create my resume since it gives me at least a chance I&#x27;ll get a response. Manually written resumes get ignored.
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throwaway5028il y a 2 jours
Datapoint from a late-twenties Ph.D. student in AI:<p>During my formative years studying pure math, I learned that the hard work of _caring to understand_ is rewarded---for example, by your internal sense of beauty and by the enthusiasm of other mathematicians.<p>For my Ph.D. I decided to try bringing the mathematical toolbox to the field of artificial intelligence, which seemed to be facing some interesting problems. Overall, the message I&#x27;ve received loud and clear is that understanding is _not rewarded_ in this field, and actually discouraged.<p>The work of an outwardly successful machine learning scientist is to make incremental improvements to well-established methods and package the results in easily marketable papers. Learning about and using previous work is rewarded to the extent that it improves marketability (for example, by improving Greek alphabet or \displaymath density) but is discouraged if standing on the shoulders of giants in this way renders the paper incomprehensible to a goldfish with a knowledge of high school algebra.<p>I think it&#x27;s clear that our current paradigm on deep learning is struggling to make scientific progress. The hard work of reshaping a paradigm must involve looking back and _caring_ about the perspectives that have been developed over the last 60-odd years. Learning other points of view is hard work, but it&#x27;s what you&#x27;re supposed to do as a scientist! Unfortunately, it&#x27;s hard to overstate how little people care about anything beyond their diminutive research niche. (I had one colleague who said their work hasn&#x27;t been intellectually demanding ever since LLMs got good at writing pytorch code and others who seem to feel that LLMs are &quot;experts on math.&quot;) Every day I look at my own research group and the boatload of &quot;top conference papers&quot; and feel sad and angry that we call this science.<p>It&#x27;s certainly poetic that LLMs---the emblem of people who don&#x27;t care---is backed by a &quot;research community&quot; that, on average, doesn&#x27;t know what it means to care about science.
biophysboyil y a 3 jours
I think people right now are way too willing to surrender their own judgment. AI is an example of this, but there are many others: restaurant ratings, movie metascores, political polls, college rankings, engagement metrics, etc. These kinds of data should be a part of decision making, but not all of it. Otherwise, you get this passive, &quot;who cares&quot; mentality that the author describes.
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Raed667il y a 3 jours
&gt; the reader didn&#x27;t care<p>I would argue -in cases like this- the reader doesn&#x27;t exist, closer to a dead internet society
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ChrisMarshallNYil y a 3 jours
Sadly, this seems to be the case, but I&#x27;m not so sure that it&#x27;s new.<p>I think &quot;If it&#x27;s worth doing; it&#x27;s worth doing half-assed.&quot; is a personal working philosophy that is probably thousands of years old.<p>It&#x27;s just that now, we have better tools for half-assing it.
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dangusil y a 3 jours
What this article gets wrong about this situation is that it&#x27;s not really about caring versus not caring, it&#x27;s about desperation moves from struggling, declining businesses versus thriving, growing ones ones.<p>You won&#x27;t find AI writing at The New York Times because their leadership has a sustainable business model. They have adapted well to the digital media upheaval, using their gaming, cooking, and product review businesses to drive up subscriptions to a point where subscriptions are contributing a larger share of revenue than they did in the print era.<p>The Chicago Sun-Times and Philadelphia Enquirer are papers that have struggled financially in ways that better-managed media companies have not.
mdavid626il y a 3 jours
Brace yourself — it’ll get only worse. The geene is out of the bottle and not possible to put it back. Software engineering will become everything, but engineering.<p>I consider myself as someone who cares and takes pride in creating software. I barely can take working in the industry anymore… It’s time to become a goose farmer.
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ferguess_kil y a 3 jours
It is just the same mindset dripping down from the top.<p>For decades after the Cold War, politicians and financiers are gradually moving to the &quot;apres moi le deluge&quot; mindset. Now it drips down to ordinary people because the Cold War generation is dying.<p>That&#x27;s it.
ramesh31il y a 3 jours
I&#x27;ve always thought that caring is the most precious resource in software development. You can pay people to show up to an office, you can pay people to write code, but you simply cannot pay people to care. It takes some special confluence of factors that money can&#x27;t buy. And great software is <i>only</i> made by people that care. This is the real &quot;10x&quot; factor that most people and organizations don&#x27;t have.
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joshstrangeil y a 3 jours
I&#x27;ve got bad news, people didn&#x27;t care far before AI, this is not new at all.<p>Even when work is 100% done by people I regularly see output that shows no one cared.
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agentultrail y a 3 jours
It&#x27;s the <i>bullshit</i> era.<p>The truth doesn&#x27;t even matter. It&#x27;s not factored in. Even liars care about the truth enough to deceive you. Bullshit is <i>worse</i> than lying.<p>We disagree? Ok. You believe your facts, I&#x27;ll believe mine. We can scream into the void with our respective audiences.<p>It&#x27;s hard to maintain the energy to seek the truth because there is <i>so much</i> bullshit. The peddlers of it are filling every single form of media with it. Every text box on every webpage and in every app is an invitation to add more of it to the world.<p>I think people get overwhelmed by it. And you have to have the bullshit cop on your shoulder exhorting you to care. It takes time and energy to care. Most people are too tired. So we let things slide. We stop listening to the bullshit cop. We become more selective. We care about the truth in some contexts but not others. It&#x27;s survival.
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flkiwiil y a 3 jours
I keep experiencing absolutely mediocre middle manager types challenge my feedback in my area of professional certification and expertise by citing, with great confidence, &quot;I asked ChatGPT and...&quot; The outsourcing of the most basic thinking by people who would rather do anything other than think is, paradoxically, creating a bonanza for people like me who end up having to do the thinking for them (and clean up their messes). And yet they continue to fail upward.<p>I&#x27;m not even anti-AI. I use these tools all the time to make &quot;zeroth draft&quot; documents that I can build on. It actually saves me a lot of time! But everything is in service of me delivering products I care very, very much about getting right, and I don&#x27;t assume their output is anything other than very sophisticated text autocompletion.
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clolegeil y a 3 jours
I agree with many of the comments here, but also feel part of this is caused by the declination of our collective physical and spiritual health.<p>It&#x27;s easier to care about your job when you&#x27;re capable of doing a good job. But the average person nowadays is more likely to be dealing with obesity, hormonal imbalances or a variety of other modern ailments&#x2F;vices that make it harder to think clearly or perform consistently.<p>And then social media gives us post after post about how your coworkers are <i>not</i> your family and how dumb you have to be to give 100% to your work. A lot of people seem to mindlessly prescribe to this train of thought that would otherwise have questioned it if they went to a church or had some belief system that emphasized the inherent importance of doing good work.
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crawsomeil y a 3 jours
Caring takes time, so it&#x27;s a currency.<p>Triage your caring like you handle high or low priority requests in any other job you would. Being mindful of what is consuming your time and your brain&#x27;s free cycles is so imporant.<p>Some people have become burned-out of caring, and it&#x27;s dangerous. Burned-out by the internet pulling at their attention all the time, their phone notifications blasting to them telling them something is important but it isn&#x27;t. Breaking news, but it&#x27;s about a celebrity&#x27;s dramatic encounter at a rewards event, and not about our politicians stealing from us.<p>The era of smartphones have made us emotionally stunted and and opposite of mindful.
ludicrousdisplail y a 3 jours
If people were paid to <i>not</i> show up to &#x27;work&#x27; then they wouldn&#x27;t be in a position to over-produce garbage. We wouldn&#x27;t be generating as much waste and we would have more higher quality &#x27;things&#x27;.
LastTrainil y a 3 jours
Our leaders have forced a third our population to accept, defend and repeat bald face lies and deception on a daily basis, how can things like this compete? It is the point of all that deception to make us apathetic.
lippihomil y a 2 jours
Some hiring data points...<p>After I post a job to hire a developer or designer (freelance), I get one application every five minutes, until the job gets taken down. Say I leave the post up for a week, that means that I have 2,000 applications to sort through.<p>It is <i>shocking</i> to see the quality of inbound responses.<p>60% obviously don&#x27;t read the job post, 10% read it but don&#x27;t make an effort to do anything other than the bare minimum, 10% have a huge delta in skills vs expected salary, and the rest are a mixed bag but at least made an effort.<p>I think these numbers stack up pretty accurately across my day-to-day interactions with people in the world. 60% are totally checked out, 10% are doing the bare minimum, 10% show up but are maybe in the wrong role.<p>So 1 in 5 people can be expected to care and make some sort of impact.
0xCMPil y a 3 jours
A lot of the comments complaining about working at companies with coworkers or leadership that don&#x27;t care about hard work never seem to take the time to think about why that may be.<p>In short: the problem is the customer&#x2F;consumer. All of us.<p>Who really doesn&#x27;t care? The person paying. Or at least the median person paying. For most industries the customer does not care about hard work or whatever. It&#x27;s always something else. Ongoing operations cost money. Growing costs money. In the end you need revenue to pay for on going work and justify investment or loans to help make more money. But the customer who will provide that needed revenue DOES NOT CARE about all these things we want.<p>This happens with citizens and infrastructure. This happens with businesses and their internal dev teams. It happens inside FAANNG all the time.<p>I don&#x27;t know how to fix it, but certainly demanding change against an uncontrollable reality is not a sustainable solution. In the face of such a reality you can certainly understand how and why &quot;not caring&quot; is the only rational response.<p>Probably the only way to escape it is to work at companies that are pre-revenue and have enough external investment to fund their operations. Oh hey...
sceptic123il y a 3 jours
&gt; Hanif marveled at the budget, time, and effort that went into crafting the two-part 90 minute podcast and how, today, there&#x27;s no way it would have happened<p>Meanwhile, from Pineapple Street Studios in 2024: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podcasts.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;the-wonder-of-stevie&#x2F;id1767486783" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podcasts.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;the-wonder-of-stevie&#x2F;i...</a>
dostickil y a 2 jours
The article puts it way too softly by calling it “mediocrity”. I’d like to see mediocrity to return, it’s like middle class. Mediocrity means someone tried their best but they are not talented or skilled enough. People not trying and don’t care means hitting the bottom. There’s nothing below that.
zingababbail y a 3 jours
Thankfully I&#x27;m a contrarian so for the first time in my life I&#x27;m actually caring.
Lichtsoil y a 3 jours
I think caring and competence do correlate.<p>If you do not care about something you are not going to become competent. And once you are competent you are also more likely to care:<p>E.g. once you learn a music instrument, or a craft, or the arts, you suddenly see all the flaws in other peoples work as well, not just your own. Sometimes it can even be hard to enjoy these things like you did back when you were ignorant.<p>Unfortunately, if you have neither you are stuck.
photochemsynil y a 3 jours
The people who control institutions seem to care more about fiscal solvenceny of their institutions above all else. Thus, if AI chatbot generated content in media results in more visits to the site and more ad revenue, that&#x27;s &#x27;good&#x27; - the content doesn&#x27;t need to be accurate or truthful, it just needs to bring in more eyeballs which translates to more ad views which translates to more revenue, which is the metric that the leaders of the institution care most about.<p>In a more authoritarian state bent on information control, the leaders of the institution might have a different metric, especially if they were a state-funded institution - namely, ensuring that their content didn&#x27;t offend the heads of the authoritarian state, resulting in either a removal of state funding or a visit from the thought police.<p>Of course there is some intersectionality here - if the ad revenue is controlled by a few monopolistic corporations, then they might respond to critical investigative reporting on their industry with the removal of their advertising revenue from the media institution. In a monopolistic situation, this might not hurt their own revenue that much as consumers have nowhere else to buy products, but in a competitive market situation, refusing to advertise is likely to result in lower revenue.<p>For the media institution, generating fluff from a chatbot instructed not to offend either the state or the corporate conglomerate is the safe route when it comes to fiscal solvency (and staying out of prison).<p>Fundamentally, if the economic system is so corrupt and soul-crushing that the vast majority of people dream of acquiring enough capital to escape the system (&#x27;f-u money&#x27;), then something is very wrong with that system.
bmartin13il y a 3 jours
It&#x27;s emblematic of the post-modern mindset. When feelings are the diver for truth then there is no moral compass. This kind of mindset redefines &quot;excellence&quot; as anything that helps you feel &quot;good&quot;. Is it any wonder that character traits like diligence and sacrifice are diminishing?<p>Oh, and I&#x27;m sure this comment will get voted down by the masses because it doesn&#x27;t &quot;feel&quot; good!
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didgetmasteril y a 3 jours
Devious people used to try and hide unpleasant or harmful information. Now they obfuscate it by surrounding it with a boatload of irrelevant information.<p>Important contract terms are buried in a 100 page mortgage contract. Wasteful government spending on someone&#x27;s pork project is on page 980 of a 2000 page spending bill that no one reads before voting on it.
joshcsimmonsil y a 3 jours
Dan - the article strikes right at the core of the problem. I enjoyed your writing style so I decided to have a look around your site and found myself saving a bunch of other articles to read later.<p>I see that you&#x27;re an artist. The concept your writing about here is obvious to most artists but not so to technologists (generally speaking). What do you make of that?
rgloveril y a 3 jours
I&#x27;d argue this is a byproduct of what&#x27;s shown in the chart where productivity has continued to increase since the 1970s, but wages have remained flat [1]. And <i>that</i> is a side-effect of the money itself being screwed up (e.g., the U.S. is nearly $37T in debt and though they&#x27;ll wax poetic about it...nobody really cares—the number just keeps goin&#x27; up).<p>Why care when—if you&#x27;re the average bear—you can work incessantly and never really get anywhere close to what past generations enjoyed? I&#x27;d prefer to live in a world where people cared more, but if the incentives aren&#x27;t there, we can expect to see the amount of &quot;care&quot; continue to decline.<p>This is why the &quot;fix the money, fix the world&quot; ethos of Bitcoin should be given more attention by detractors.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.epi.org&#x2F;productivity-pay-gap" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.epi.org&#x2F;productivity-pay-gap</a>
bananapubil y a 3 jours
this is the thing that bothers me most about it all (well, second most after the entire ruling class deciding to replace humans with the Mostly OK Machine without caring about the harm it does to employee and customers and society in the long term) - that people just don&#x27;t want to take responsibility.<p>if you want to use an LLM to produce code, OK! have it produce a PR, then review it carefully yourself with your human brain, then send it along. if it fucking sucks, that&#x27;s on you, and you should feel bad and bear the social consequences of it. if you&#x27;re not skilled enough to review the PR, then why are you sending it? ditto bug reports. ditto emails.<p>you, the human, are the one sending it. <i>you</i>, the human, need to take responsibility, instead of pretending it it is someone else&#x27;s fault, or no one&#x27;s fault. you, the human, need to use your judgment to decide if sending an LLM-edited or LLM-generated PR or email is a waste of time or not.
gecko6il y a 3 jours
CS Lewis on the dangers of caring too much:<p>&quot;It is one of the evils of rapid diffusion of news that the sorrows of all the world come to us every morning. I think each village was meant to feel pity for its own sick and poor whom it can help, and I doubt if it is the duty of any private person to fix his mind on ills which he cannot help. (This may even become an escape from the works of charity we really can do for those we know.) A great many people now seem to think that the mere state of being worried is in itself meritorious. I don&#x27;t think it is. We must, if it so happens, give our lives for others; but even while we&#x27;re doing it, I think we&#x27;re meant to enjoy our Lord and, in Him, our friends, our food, our sleep, your jokes, and the birdsong and the frosty sunrise.&quot;
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mobileturdfctryil y a 3 jours
The part about &quot;caring&quot; that I think requires nuance to get to the heart of the issue:<p>I used to seek out tough challenges that had tight deadlines. Early in my career. This helped me gain a lot of knowledge about my craft. However, now that I&#x27;ve acquired a lot of knowledge I don&#x27;t go actively seeking work I&#x27;m not being asked to do. It&#x27;s not because I don&#x27;t care, but it&#x27;s because I value my life outside of work.<p>The other part of this is that there were never tangible rewards, such as a raise or promotion (besides the experience I acquired) so at this stage in my career by asking to do extra work and spend more stressful hours in a salaried job environment for nothing in return would ultimately be a bad decision on my part.
lapcatil y a 3 jours
The author talks about the phenomenon like it&#x27;s just an individual failing and exhorts people to &quot;be human&quot;. But I think that &quot;who cares?&quot; is in fact a natural human reaction to the incentives. We need to look at how our society is structured and how the incentives are set up. I would highlight two factors that I think are consequential in the current economy: corporate consolidation and job insecurity.<p>Increasingly, we have larger corporations eating everything, including other companies, leaving consumers with fewer choices. In recent years there has finally been some pushback from the government—antitrust was more or less nonexistent ever since Microsoft got a slap on the wrist in 2001—but it remains to be seen whether this will end with more than just another wrist slap, and whether the new administration will roll back even the small progress made. When we have more competition, more economic choices, more companies, indeed more smaller companies owned by individuals rather than by collectives of fund managers (effectively a tragedy of the commons), we&#x27;re more likely to have people in power who do care, and the people who don&#x27;t care have to compete against the people who do, which incentivizes caring. On the other hand, corporate consolidation leads to a small number of people controlling everything, who care about nothing but profit.<p>At the lower levels, below the C-suite (with their golden parachutes rewarded regardless of success or failure), job insecurity has become a fact of life for everyone. The epitome of this situation is the so-called &quot;gig economy&quot;, in which millions of people don&#x27;t even have permanent employment or hours (or health insurance, for that matter) but are forced to live day-to-day with tenuous connections to giant corporations and the odd jobs those corporations may throw their way. Even people who do have full-time jobs can be tossed away unceremoniously like so much trash at any time in mass layoffs, for any reason or no reason. The question is, in the face of such job insecurity, why <i>should</i> employees care are their jobs? Their employers clearly don&#x27;t care about them. There was a time, many decades ago, when companies were more like families, felt some community responsibility, and an individual could work for the same company their entire career and retire there. The incentives were more aligned to caring about your job; it was similar to caring about your own family.<p>The way that humans behave depends crucially on the environment: place them in a healthy, supportive situation, and they&#x27;ll tend to behave well; place them in a hostile situation, a war of all against all, and they&#x27;ll tend to behave badly. We need to arrange our society intentionally so that the incentives are aligned for mutual benefit and caring. We primates are inherently imitative.
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SirFattyil y a 3 jours
For me, the who cares part started with the latest election cycle and current president. The zone has been flooded, I quit reading the news and cannot be bothered to care about any of it.<p>Additionally, AI generated content, AI pictures and deepfakes have a numbing effect. I guess I can say &quot;who cares?&quot;
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czhu12il y a 3 jours
“ Looking back, it feels like a little microcosm of everything right now: Over the course of two months, we went from something smart that would demand a listener&#x27;s attention in a way that was challenging and new to something that sounded like every other thing: some dude talking to some other dude about apps that some third dude would half-listen-to at 2x speed while texting a fourth dude about plans for later.”<p>In the Dark was a podcast I came across recently that struck me as being in the former camp. The reporters cared, the organization supported them, and they created content that was gripping and demanded the listener to pay attention.<p>I’m sure this is the wrong place for a podcast recommendation but I wanted to play my small part in surfacing the work of people who do care
mobileturdfctryil y a 3 jours
One thing I learned about my career in tech. Small companies tend to operate a little more so as meritocracies than large corporations.<p>The real incentive in large corporations &#x2F; organizations seems to be about &quot;building strong relationships &#x2F; trust with people in power&quot;. Not about &quot;becoming good at what you do&quot;.<p>This incentive structure was probably fine in a &quot;post-industrial age&quot;, but is very wrong for the &quot;information age&quot;. Eventually I think this way of thinking &#x2F; organizing will go away via natural selection , but probably (sadly) not until most of us are dead. Because there are so many entrenched interests who espouse this kind of hierarchy.
sophyphreakil y a 3 jours
So, I&#x27;m living in a Buddhist Monastery. This article basically details why.<p>In Buddhism, we talk sometimes talk about how apathy is the &quot;near enemy&quot; of equanimity. That is, equanimity is good and apathy is bad, but sometimes apathy looks like equanimity.<p>I was a software engineer for several years, and what was hardest for me was this exact &quot;who cares&quot; attitude. I wanted to do good work, but that was not the culture.<p>Now I seek the extinguishment of suffering. No one here says &quot;who cares&quot; here about this work. It&#x27;s deeply refreshing. I feel very lucky to be here.
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quantadevil y a 3 jours
I think the &quot;Who Cares Era&quot; (great name btw) is able to continue down this path because really the entire business purpose nowadays for any online content is simply AD Delivery.<p>If the website can successfully prove to the advertisers that some human likely did indeed view the ADs then it&#x27;s &quot;mission accomplished&quot;. It matters very little what the content contains, as long as the AD revenue stream (the only revenue stream for most online sites) keeps rolling in. So really the only text to get right is the &quot;Clickbait Titles&quot; and &quot;Clickbait Imagery&quot;.<p>So the longer canonical form of our Era is &quot;Who Cares, We Made Some Money...Era&quot;
Animatsil y a 3 jours
&gt; Hanif Abdurraqib, in one of his excellent Instagram mini-essays the other week, wrote about the rise of content that&#x27;s designed to be consumed while doing something else. In Hanif&#x27;s case, he was writing about Time Machine, his incredible 90 minute deep dive into The Fugees&#x27; seminal album The Score. Released in 2021, Hanif marveled at the budget, time, and effort that went into crafting the two-part 90 minute podcast and how, today, there&#x27;s no way it would have happened.<p>Expecting people to pay full-time attention to 90 minutes of talking about some hip-hop group from the 1990s is a big ask.
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presentationil y a 3 jours
I agree this is a real phenomenon, but I also have been finding a lot of truly interesting and great (long-form, deep dive) stuff on the web lately, from podcasts to Youtube videos to Substack blogs and so on, by people who do care. You can scratch the intellectual itch in this age if you curate what you consume. The signal to noise ratio is terrible now, but if you know how to look, you&#x27;ll find great things.
827ail y a 3 jours
This is the entirely predictable and avoidable impact of hyperscale bureaucracy. Its not because people aren&#x27;t paid enough (though, most aren&#x27;t). Its because people in these systems aren&#x27;t given enough agency. Humans crave authority, agency, and creativity.<p>Here&#x27;s something I implore tech business leaders to think about: If you believe AI to be the world-changing technology you say it will be: It follows that you <i>must</i> believe that intelligence will become commoditized. What is going to differentiate your business from every other business as thought workflows become a commodity? I&#x27;m not sure I know the answer, but while most business leaders seem to believe the answer to live in &quot;how much AI can we shove down our employees and customers throats&quot;, I suspect the real answer is the opposite. If AI is an omnipresent, powerful substrate of business delivery, like computers are today, available in-kind to every business, what will differentiate your business is how you handle the gaps between what AI is capable of. What is your human element? Are the humans just glue between AI agents or are they actually a differentiating factor?<p>All this is why I tend to believe AI is going to mean slow but complete death for hyperscale companies, and there&#x27;s nothing they can do about it. The only survivors will be the ones providing AI services, and they&#x27;ll be the next generation&#x27;s IBM. The winners are going to be small companies, teams of ten that can now operate like a team of a hundred. These small teams will have access to the exact same thought workflow automations that the hyperscalers have access to, but they also have something that the hyperscalers don&#x27;t: human agency and agility.
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tsoukaseil y a 2 jours
There is a considerate difference of peoples&#x27; general stance and living in relation to pre 2010 era. I refer some non-exhaustive and not-in-order list:<p>Less and less people: - want kids<p>- want a hard work, only a few hours sitting in an office with a secure, albeit low income<p>- want to advance in academics<p>- read books<p>The underground reasons are debatable and I leave them for comments. Increased AI usage is both a result and a reason.
cloudpushersil y a 3 jours
Totally. This isn’t just an AI issue, it’s a reflection of a larger shift where speed and cost-efficiency matter more than accuracy or intent. AI just amplifies the effects. When every step of the process is driven by “good enough,” you end up with work that no one really stands behind beyond a seed round.
duckiliciousil y a 2 jours
Mediocrity was here a long time before AI. In every field. And most people don&#x27;t care. But yeah, it might get worse now that LLM output is also mediocre and they enable us to produce much more mediocre products.
MinimalActionil y a 3 jours
I entirely resonate with this article. It is true that most people don&#x27;t care these days; empathy is a resource that is hardly spent&#x2F;utilized on others. It is also true that there is just way too much to care. There are two different kinds of being overwhelmed going on here.
tim333il y a 3 jours
I care about what I consider important stuff, say the war in Ukraine and will it be WW3 or not. I really see no reason why I should care whether some mediocre supplement or podcast I&#x27;ve not heard of was done with AI or not. Is there some reason I should care about that?
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NooneAtAll3il y a 3 jours
In my opinion, &quot;who cares&quot; era is the consequence of &quot;care about this!&quot; era that preceded it<p>if all loudspeakers scream &quot;care about this&quot;, but don&#x27;t give a thing (or worse) about something &#x2F;you&#x2F; care - you stop caring in response
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hn_throwaway_99il y a 3 jours
What the author is describing is an inevitable consequence that happens when the cost of producing something falls dramatically.<p>It long ago happened with manufactured goods. We like to say &quot;they don&#x27;t make &#x27;em like that used to&quot;, and we&#x27;re right. Quality clothes (think &quot;Sunday best&quot;) from, say, the early 1900s were incredibly well made because they were so expensive - they had to last for years, and people cared about the quality. A few years ago SNL had a skit about using Joseph A Banks suits as paper towels because they&#x27;re so cheap as to be disposable.<p>With journalism, while producing journalism has been (until recently) still pretty expensive, the distribution became so cheap with the Internet that you saw a flood of low quality, &quot;who cares&quot;-type content. Now, with LLMs, even the production of stories is getting much cheaper, so you&#x27;ll see this flood of &quot;eh, good enough&quot;-quality content.<p>The same thing is happening with software, which is why I&#x27;m glad to be leaving the profession. Before the Internet, it was so expensive to fix a bug in shipped software, so you really had to care about the details and making sure things were correct. With Internet distribution, fixing a big is super cheap, so shipping fast became the most important metric. Now, despite your view on LLMs, they should reduce the cost of making software, so you&#x27;ll see a ton of &quot;vibe coding, &#x27;works well enough&#x27;&quot; low -quality, &quot;who cares&quot; software.
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mobileturdfctryil y a 3 jours
I&#x27;m simply pulling from my personal experience &#x2F; interactions I&#x27;ve had with AI chatbots when I say this, but from my perspective anyone who considers AI a &quot;mediocrity machine&quot; is doing it wrong.
PaulHouleil y a 3 jours
I think of the crypto scammers who prove they don&#x27;t care when they flack stupendously ugly NFTs -- and it seems to be the point that they don&#x27;t care.
GenZ_RiseUpil y a 3 jours
I think this is what is meant by &#x27;slop&#x27;, especially Dan&#x27;s mention of Hanif Abdurraqib&#x27;s subject matter on content meant to be consumed while doing something else. Its purpose is consumption for consumption&#x27;s sake.<p>That&#x27;s not necessarily a negative, a lot of entertainment has been predicated on non-thought (Seinfeld was great in part because of no hugs, no learning) consumption. However, when it leaks into how we access and shape the world, there is an increase in &#x27;slop&#x27;pily made, low quality structures and products. I feel like its ushering in an era of &#x27;Chabuduo&#x27; [1] across the globe that&#x27;s going to be very difficult to come out of.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chinaexpatsociety.com&#x2F;culture&#x2F;the-chabuduo-mindset" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chinaexpatsociety.com&#x2F;culture&#x2F;the-chabuduo-minds...</a>
bad_usernameil y a 3 jours
I like to remind my colleagues at work that our most important commercial offering must be &quot;Giving a Shit as a Service&quot;.
surgical_fireil y a 3 jours
<i>&quot;In the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander. All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate.&quot;</i>
tom_mil y a 3 jours
Of course no one cares. How do you think we ended up with all the things we have today?
lesuoracil y a 3 jours
This is seems largely expected from Dunning and Kruger&#x27;s paper.<p>The true Dunning-Kruger effect is not that low-skill individuals believe they&#x27;re better than high-skill individuals but that low-skill individuals do not know what skill looks like. (Hence the title &quot;Unskilled and unaware of it: how difficulties in recognizing one&#x27;s own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments&quot;).<p>When you cannot evaluate the output of something then _any_ output looks good.
theptipil y a 3 jours
“Who cares” is one way to frame it, perhaps a bit blame-y.<p>I view this as more epistemically significant, it’s the Post-Truth era. Politics and national discourse has been heading this way for some time, but now AI may mean that nobody can distinguish truth from falsehood, at least for online content.<p>We need new methods for attesting and chaining trust.
camillomilleril y a 3 jours
Mussolini’s motto was “me ne frego”, literally “I don’t care”. Seems fitting.
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broabprobeil y a 3 jours
there’s a lot to unpack here. Makes me think of the This Is Fine meme. People know the room is burning around them but they just don’t have enough bandwidth to address it.
Mikhail_Edoshinil y a 1 jour
&quot;Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving&quot;.
bytepoetil y a 3 jours
Such a well-written and thoughtful blog post. Loved it!
AnimalMuppetil y a 3 jours
I think that the problem may be that people no longer believe in a future worth having.<p>If society is going to fall apart <i>anyway</i>, because of nuclear war&#x2F;climate change&#x2F;Trump&#x2F;demographic collapse&#x2F;soil depletion&#x2F;microplastics&#x2F;forever chemicals&#x2F;peak oil&#x2F;whatever, why should I care about trying to build a future? It won&#x27;t come anyway. Why should I care about the quality of my work? Why should I care about having kids? Marriage, even? Why should I care about <i>anything</i>? &quot;Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die&quot; (bad advice in any era, but seductive to those fighting against apathy).
recursivedoubtsil y a 3 jours
that means that caring is a competitive advantage.<p>(always has been)
ncr100il y a 3 jours
This is also called the Accountability Gap.
chrisco255il y a 3 jours
The decline of newspaper journalism has long been observed. Readership has declined and along with it, salaries and talent. AI looks to be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody cares about fake articles in Chicago Sun-Times and Philadelphia Inquirer because nobody reads them at all. You&#x27;ve got a skeleton crew managing the decline of a barely profitable institution with shrinking staff and declining YOY revenues for going on two decades.<p>It used to be a staple of society to read the paper. Everyone read the paper. We read the feed now, and it&#x27;s been that way for some time.
asdf6969il y a 3 jours
It’s the “Why should I care?” era
ironman1478il y a 3 jours
I think it&#x27;s less that nobody cares, it&#x27;s that more people who don&#x27;t care think they can get into these jobs and they slip through due to sheer volume. There have always been this many people that don&#x27;t care, but never had opportunities to enter certain jobs or those fields weren&#x27;t as appealing at the time. Many in software engineering don&#x27;t care about the actual field, but because it&#x27;s become such a high paying job, we see many people who enter purely for the money.
raymondcarl1il y a 2 jours
Social Media
Evenjosil y a 3 jours
The who cares era is just a symptom of the unaccountability machinery of our era.<p>It&#x27;s hard to care or be passionate when you are certain that anything you produce which is worthwhile or original will be crushed, lost in the ocean of slop.
panstromekil y a 2 jours
Can we finally stop this &quot;kids these days... &quot; &quot;back in my day...&quot; attitude around this? Literally non of this is anything new. Before AI slop, TV&#x27;s were full of soap opera nonsense that my mom would watch while doing laundry or cooking. Stephen Leacock was making fun of throwaway detective novels hundred years ago. The lesson here is not that &quot;nobody cares.&quot; It&#x27;s that nobody cares about slop, and that&#x27;s why it&#x27;s slop. It&#x27;s now cheaper than ever to produce, so we have more of it but I doubt it occupies more space in our life than occupied before.
zzzeekil y a 3 jours
doesnt mention anything political until the 11th paragraph, where he digs in.<p>HN &quot;flagged for politics!&quot; enforcer mob caught unawares. good
1domil y a 3 jours
I read the title and it triggered something I&#x27;ve been thinking a lot lately: there&#x27;s too much for everyone to care about right now. Article didn&#x27;t really touch on it directly, but:<p>&gt; something that sounded like every other thing: some dude talking to some other dude about apps that some third dude would half-listen-to at 2x speed while texting a fourth dude about plans for later.<p>It&#x27;s not that the dudes don&#x27;t care, it&#x27;s that the dudes have 15 other things expected of them, which weren&#x27;t expected 15 years ago and caring capacity feels like a biological limit. There isn&#x27;t the required amount of caring available in the average human any more, and caring is needed for standards to be maintained.<p>15 years ago, the world was in awe that stuxnet, a cyber attack, had impacted the real world. I was in cyber at the time, and the idea that day to day lives of normal people would be impacted in the real world was like Hollywood fiction: unthinkable.<p>A few weeks ago, I didn&#x27;t even notice the reason my local big brand store shelves were empty was because of a cyberattack. It was a week later I saw the article explaining it on BBC: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ckg4zrpk5p7o" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ckg4zrpk5p7o</a><p>I feel like a cynical old man, but I&#x27;m sure most here will relate - the age of tech we are living in now is not the one any of us thought we were working to create.
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tuckerpoil y a 3 jours
The canonical life vectors people used to align themselves to, largely school -&gt; university -&gt; job -&gt; marriage -&gt; house in the suburbs, are long dead. They don’t work anymore. They don’t even exist for most people. And the worst part is that for a huge swath of the population, life outcomes are no longer a function of personal agency. Not entirely.<p>I grew up poor. Trailer park, unemployed father, chronically ill mother. I did the &quot;right&quot; things, got degrees, worked my ass off in tech, climbed the ladder. And now, at 30, with a high household income, I still can’t afford a single-family home near my job. The American Dream has been geographically priced out of existence. It&#x27;s a tautology: you need to be near economic opportunity, but that proximity makes the spoils of that opportunity unattainable.<p>And let’s say I could buy a house without draining my savings and becoming house-poor, what would I be buying? New builds are laughably bad. Developers optimize for speed and cost-cutting, not longevity or quality. Even the “luxury” apartment I rent, which was built in 2018 in a fairly affluent area, is $3k&#x2F;month for water leaks, a cracked foundation, bargain-bin appliances, and slanted floors. It’s a high-cost, low-trust ecosystem. Everywhere.<p>What’s replaced those dead pathways is a schizophrenically fragmented collective ethos. A thousand micro-cultures screaming past each other about what actually matters. For some, it’s hustle and the entrepreneurial grindset. For others, political purity. Or aesthetic curation. Or spiritual awakening. Or personal brand optimization. Some chase passive income, others clout, others raw dopamine. One group preaches family values and self-reliance; another insists that simply surviving is oppression unless all conditions are ideal.<p>There’s no coherent worldview to plug into anymore. Just a buffet of ideologies, all half-digested and shilled beyond recognition. Each individual has to construct their own belief system out of whatever cultural detritus they happen to trip over. And the result is a populace with no shared reference point, just competing, incompatible theories of meaning, each as brittle and anxious as the next. A non-stop race to the bottom.<p>And when nobody can agree on what matters, nobody bothers to care. A Boeing tech doesn’t torque the bolt on a 787 properly because, why would he? No one else seems to care. Drivers treat public roads like a demolition derby because enforcement is a joke. People skip car insurance entirely because the odds of meaningful consequences are laughably low. If you&#x27;re in a fender bender, just drive away! Nothing will happen to you. Steal stuff from the supermarket, nothing will happen. Why pay taxes for your small business? You&#x27;re never getting audited! See an old lady getting mugged in an alley? Meh, not my problem. Nothing compels people to act in the collective interest anymore... not law, not shame, not pride.<p>The U.S. increasingly feels less like a country and more like a clown-show economic zone designed not to nurture citizens, but to extract from them, manufacturing wealth from thin air for a rentier class while selling everyone else the illusion of mobility. Unless you were born into money, got absurdly lucky with crypto, or won a scam lawsuit, the system is rigged to keep you running in place, and spare me the cope about “the best time in history,” when modern medicine is a privatized racket pushing pills over care and our “peacetime” economy is bankrolled by an endless carousel of proxy wars and every tech &quot;innovation&quot; in the last 15 years is just a new medium to drill ads into people&#x27;s lives.<p>As Jon Blow once said, we live in a profoundly unserious country. And the logical endpoint of that unseriousness is a culture of nihilism, malaise, and quiet surrender. How do you fix it, or is it simply too far gone?
Ancalagonil y a 3 jours
Dude it is exhausting. Just existing - working, exercising, maintaining the house - is enough to make me tired at the end of the day (and I don’t even have kids). It’s frankly just overload. The capitalist machine is in its end game.
jaoaneil y a 3 jours
Yes, nobody cares about what a special supplement says. No one reads those and if they do it’s just to pass time. What happened here is that having used AI to write the supplement made the obvious more evident. The rest of the article is just crying about AI and Trump and <i>yawn</i> wow this is even less interesting than a Chicago Sun Times special supplement!
jplusequaltil y a 3 jours
This is late stage capitalism at work. Our economy and political systems incentivized the behavior that lead us here, and the current apathy we see is the working class realizing the rot in the bottom of society.
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wiseowiseil y a 3 jours
People don&#x27;t have any goal. It&#x27;s not surprising at all.<p>110 years ago it was WW1, then it was WW2, then postwar euphoria. Then it was Democracy vs Commies, golden age, space race, rise of Hollywood, disco, fast cars, cheap housing, economy booming.<p>What is there now? Everybody is scared shitless of war (and for a good reason), economy is not doing good a small guy (only for trillion dollar behemoths), space race is dead. Mindless scrolling, degradation and grinding are the only things left.
nthingtohideil y a 3 jours
The Who Cares Inception.<p>&gt; As Elon Musk&#x27;s DOGE rats gnaw their way through federal agencies, not caring is their guiding light.<p>He wouldn&#x27;t have used this wording if he had actually spent sometime on understanding how wasteful the previous governments have been. So in a sense, Elon was correcting the previous Who Cares mistakes and not actually committing new Who Cares mistakes. This shows that even Dan doesn&#x27;t care enough to ground his opinions in facts.
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strawhatguyil y a 3 jours
Ugh, he had a point until he brought in cutting the government as a <i>bad</i> thing.<p>Seriously, DOGE is sweating the small stuff, trying to get cuts where they can, and that does NOT happen from people who don&#x27;t care. There&#x27;s a lot of care there. As an analogy, when I program, I&#x27;m always on the lookout for performance improvements, and that involves cutting non-performant code and <i>doing less</i>. It&#x27;s the bro-coders that slap together dependencies to cobble together a monstrosity that don&#x27;t care. Not the cutters. Cutting waste <i>is</i> caring.<p>The more accurate &quot;Who Cares?&quot; moment is the fact Congress refuses to codify any cuts and in fact spends more. Just paying off friends, the impeding doom of our debt, when <i>seriously</i> deep cuts of <i>everything</i> will be forced, is just <i>shrug</i>.
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