Feedback 1: The README really needs more details. What does it do/not do? Don't assume people have used Cursor. If it is a Cursor alternative, does it support all of Cursor's features?<p>As a non-Cursor user who does AI programming, there is nothing there to make me want to try it out.<p>Feedback 2: I feel any new agentic AI tool for programming should have a comparison against Aider[1] which for me is the tool to benchmark against. Can you give a compelling reason to use this over Aider? Don't just say "VSCode" - I'm sure there are extensions for VSCode that work with Aider.<p>As an example of the questions I have:<p>- Does it have something like Aider's repomap (or better)?<p>- To what granularity can I limit the context?<p>[1] <a href="https://aider.chat/" rel="nofollow">https://aider.chat/</a>
It feels like everyone and their mother is building coding agents these days. Curious how this compares to others like Cline, VS Code Copilot's Agent mode, Roo Code, Kilo Code, Zed, etc. Not to mention those that are closed source, CLI based, etc. Any standout features?
Zed (<a href="https://zed.dev/agentic" rel="nofollow">https://zed.dev/agentic</a>) also released agentic code edits (similar to Cursor) which I tried and really like.
One thing I noticed is that there's no cost tracking, so it's very hard to predict how much you're spending. This is fine on tools like Cursor that are all inclusive, but is something that is really necessary if you're bringing your own API keys.<p>Is this feature on the roadmap?
May I ask why did you decide against starting with (Eclipse) Theia instead of VSCode?<p>It's compatible but has better integration and modularity, and doing so might insulate you a bit from your rather large competitor controlling your destiny.<p>Or is the exit to be bought by Microsoft? By OpenAI? And thus to more closely integrate?<p>If you're open-source but derivative, can they not simply steal your ideas? Or will your value depend on having a lasting hold on your customers?<p>I'm really happy there are full-fledged IDE alternatives, but I find the hub-and-spoke model where VSCode/MS is the only decider of integration patterns is a real problem. LSP has been a race to the bottom, feature-wise, though it really simplified IDE support for small languages.
Projects like this are great because open source versions need to figure out the right way to do things, rather than the hacky, closed, proprietary alternatives that pop up first and are just trying to consume as many users as possible to get a most quickly.<p>In that case, a shitty, closed system is good actually because it's another thing your users will need to "give up" if they move to an alternative. By contrast, an open ide like void will hopefully make headway on an open interface between ides and the llm agents in such a way that it can be adapted by neovim people like me or anyone else for that matter
This is very cool and I'm always happy to see more competition in this space. That said, two suggestions:<p>- The logo looks like it was inspired directly from the Cursor logo and modified slightly. I would suggest changing it.<p>- It might be wise to brand yourself as your own thing, not just an "open source Cursor". I tend to have the expectation that "open source [X]" projects are worse than "[X]". Probably unfair, I know.
On a tangent, I get the feeling that the more senior you are, the less likely you are to end up using one of these VIDEs. If you do use any coding assistants at all, it will mostly be for the auto-complete feature - no 'agent mode' malarkey.<p>Would you say this is true?
Given that there's a dozen agentic coding IDEs, I only use Cursor because of the few features they have like auto-identification of the next cursor location (I find myself hitting tab-tab-tab-tab a lot, it speeds up repetitive edits). Are there any other IDEs that implement these QOL features, including Void (given it touts itself specifically as a Cursor alternative)?
A trajectory question: do we still have the debate that whether open-source software takes away SDE jobs or makes the pie grow bigger to create more jobs? The booming OS community in the past seem have created multiple billion-dollar markets. On the other hand, we have a lot less growth than before now, and I was wondering if OSS has started to suppressing the demand of SDEs.
I've got a great setup going with Emacs and Aidermacs[1]. I just can't stand using VS Code, it's impossible to configure to my liking.<p>[1]: <a href="https://github.com/MatthewZMD/aidermacs">https://github.com/MatthewZMD/aidermacs</a>
This is realy cool and checks my privacy boxes, great name too. I will be testing it out and will consider contributing.<p>One thing i'd really like to have is a manual order for folders or even files in the explorer view.
I subscribed to the mailing list of void long ago to be notified once the alpha opens, but i've never recieved anything. I forgot about it until today.
fwiw here's a more structured/organized version of this thread: <a href="https://extraakt.com/extraakts/void-ai-coding-tool-discussion" rel="nofollow">https://extraakt.com/extraakts/void-ai-coding-tool-discussio...</a>
Mandatory reminder that "agentic coding" works way worse than just using the LLM directly, steering it ad needed, filling the gaps, and so forth. The value is in the semantical capabilities of the LLM itself: wrapping it will make it more convenient to use, but always less powerful.
they always start as open source to bait users. how long until this one also turns into BaitWare? I hope it won't since it's backed by Y Combinator and has an Apache 2 license.
If I move off Cursor, it's def not going to be to another vs-code derivative.
Zed has it right - build it from the ground up, otherwise, MS is going to kneecap you at some point.
I created an OSS ai coding platform as well: <a href="https://brokk.ai" rel="nofollow">https://brokk.ai</a><p>But it's a different take, Brokk is built to let humans supervise AI more effectively rather than optimizing for humans reading and writing code by hand. So it's not a VS Code fork, it's not really an IDE in the traditional sense at all.<p>Intro video with demo here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw92v-uN5xI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw92v-uN5xI</a>
The time to sell a VSCode fork for 3B was a week ago. If someone wants to move off of VSCode, why would they move to a fork of it instead of to Zed, JetBrains, or a return to the terminal?<p>Next big sale is going to be something like "Chrome Fork + AI + integrated inter-app MCP". Brave is eh, Arc is being left to die on its own, and Firefox is... doing nothing.