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The San Francisco Rent Explosion Part III

93 点作者 nikunjk将近 10 年前

7 条评论

tibbon将近 10 年前
While not to the exact same scale, rents in NYC and Boston have been doing similar. In Somerville, apartments are roughly double what they were 10 years ago by my estimates. Salaries for the average person haven&#x27;t kept up. My partner and I clear 160k&#x2F;year, and affording a 2-3BR apartment is still not easy given student loans, saving for a 20% home down payment, etc. We are currently in a 1BR to make that happen, but the lack of space is killing us. The only way I can see ever owning property is if my options at some company end up being worth something.<p>My question is not if things are going up (they are), but what can we do about them. We are going to destroy our neighborhoods, culture and opportunities (yes, even for us software developers) if these things keep going up like this. Unless none of us ever want to have more than a 150 sq&#x2F;ft bedroom that we rent (no kids, room for hobbies, etc), we need to find a solution.<p>I&#x27;m really sad for my friends who aren&#x27;t developers, because its impossible to keep up. I don&#x27;t want everyone to be a developer. I don&#x27;t think that is culturally good, or a solution. I want artists, academics, electricians, caregivers, medical professionals, and people of all walks of life in my city.<p>Look, we&#x27;ve got some incredibly bright minds on here. What is a realistic, forward looking and innovative way we can work on this? We&#x27;re aiming for the moon, hyperloops and self driving cars... but maybe a few people can try to figure out how to make it so that cities aren&#x27;t absolutely terrible cost-wise to live in?<p>NEW THOUGHT: Yes, it is supply and demand. I wonder if someone can start a company whose mission is to quickly create scalable affordable housing in major cities? Something involving tricks for greater density, new building techniques, focus on efficiency but also quality of life... and doing it fast. We need this in 2 years, not 20. How can we build 20,000 units of housing within reach of someone in their 20&#x27;s in the middle of the income range in each Boston, NYC and SF?
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Xcelerate将近 10 年前
I&#x27;ve always wanted to live in San Francisco for at least a few years, but this data (combined with the fact that my girlfriend steadfastly refuses to move outside of the south) is slowly turning my interest towards places like Chattanooga. Is San Francisco <i>really</i> the only serious place for startups, or are there other options that I might be happy with (&quot;settle for&quot;)?
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7Figures2Commas将近 10 年前
Investors who are pouring money into Bay Area startups might as well be investing in Bay Area real estate, because real estate is ultimately where a lot of their money is going.<p>As San Francisco startups like this one[1], which has an all-in cost of $146,000&#x2F;year per employee and an insane rent to revenue ratio of 15%, demonstrate, investors are largely footing the bill for the explosion in residential and commercial real estate costs that the boom they&#x27;re funding has helped create.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10049808" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10049808</a>
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myth_buster将近 10 年前
Wow, this got dropped from front page pretty fast. I thought the discussion was engaging.<p>Previous discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8174583" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8174583</a>
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venomsnake将近 10 年前
I don&#x27;t understand. Why are there so many light colored areas in the city where rent is half&#x2F;third of Mission.<p>Non SF person here. Can anyone explain? With exploding demand it should have trickled there by now ( Bayview, Excelsior)
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paulpauper将近 10 年前
That&#x27;s why it&#x27;s smart that millennials are living with their parents longer, using the saved $ to eventually buy a home instead of making the landlord rich. It&#x27;s not immaturity - it&#x27;s adaptation.
Animats将近 10 年前
Firefox&#x2F;Mozilla now has a new location on the Embarcadero facing the Bay Bridge. They must be really profitable.[1] (Go to the Google Maps link below, and take a look around.) Those deals with Hello and Pocket must be paying off big-time!<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;maps&#x2F;@37.7895641,-122.3885496,3a,19y,267.19h,93.54t&#x2F;data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sigSMX7SmQMKmDrBG8efoYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;maps&#x2F;@37.7895641,-122.3885496,3a,19y,...</a>