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Rethinking Work

117 点作者 dnt404-1超过 9 年前

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robotkilla超过 9 年前
I am a professional web developer (edit: actually i'm selling myself short with this title as I speak multiple programming languages, do UI and a host of other things) and haven't had a fulltime job in over 4 years. I try to get remote contracts that last from 1 to 6 months (3 months is the norm) and then I spend a month or two off self educating and making video games (trying to transition to indie game dev). I'm exponentially happier than when I had to wake up and head to a 9 to 5 even though I have less money and live much more sparsely.
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quadrangle超过 9 年前
As per the famous Ghana postal workers recording ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=por5SopwHDc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=por5SopwHDc</a> and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;faculty.weber.edu&#x2F;tpriest&#x2F;FacetsMdl_files&#x2F;Postal%20Workers.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;faculty.weber.edu&#x2F;tpriest&#x2F;FacetsMdl_files&#x2F;Postal%20Wo...</a> ), it&#x27;s perfectly possible to <i>enjoy</i> even tedious work if you have a good attitude. It helps to have a healthy culture.<p>In the U.S. we are culturally <i>taught</i> that we are supposed to dislike our work, especially if it isn&#x27;t prestigious. If you dance around and have <i>fun</i> at work in the U.S. people look at you weird and generally discourage any such thing. But there&#x27;s no reason not to bother enjoying your time.<p>This is on top of the various other points they make in the article and related stuff…
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1024core超过 9 年前
We don&#x27;t have to look far: almost the entire OSS movement is driven by purpose, not money. Sure, money _can_ be made afterwards if one so desires (cf RedHat), but it&#x27;s not the primary motivator (in most cases). I wonder if any academics have done studies on the OSS movement and what drives the contributors.
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omouse超过 9 年前
This is similar to what Lewis Mumford has said in Technics and Civilization. Basically, more abundance means everything gets cheaper. Unfortunately the wealth created is locked up within a few classes and barely trickles down. Like the farmer who only produces cash crops and has no food to feed their family or the shoe maker whose children have no shoes. Mumford suggests that with such abundance we need &quot;basic&quot; communism which goes further than a guaranteed basic income. People will still have an incentive to work but they&#x27;ll be spared the starvation and homelessness.<p>It&#x27;s hard to get used to an abundance mindset but we&#x27;re definitely at that point where we absolutely must. It&#x27;s like pre-AWS and post-AWS: in the former we have to worry about provisioning more hardware and virtual machines and worrying about running out of space (I&#x27;m in that situation now where we have a private cloud and maybe 2 more VMs can be spun up and that&#x27;s it). In the latter situation we would be able to provision as many VMs as needed. Sure your costs increase because you went overboard and provisioned one too many VMs but at least you got to worry about over-abundance rather than scarcity!
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ojbyrne超过 9 年前
When I took a Human Resources course, there were 3 theories:<p>Theory X (The oldest): People won&#x27;t work unless you force them to, and without constant supervision, they&#x27;ll slack off.<p>Theory Y: People are looking for self-actualization, and you need to find what gets them excited, get them to do that, and get out of their way.<p>Theory Z (currently the most popular): Both Theory X and Theory Y apply.
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danharaj超过 9 年前
Related: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;2015&#x2F;mar&#x2F;21&#x2F;books-interview-david-graeber-the-utopia-of-rules" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;2015&#x2F;mar&#x2F;21&#x2F;books-interview...</a><p>The traditional capitalist view of human productivity is misanthropic and authoritarian. It makes sense if you want to justify hierarchical relationships and reduce the autonomy of the masses.<p>There ought to be plenty of engineers and programmers on HN. They should know how valuable autonomy and meaning is to our productivity. This is universal: Everyone likes doing good work and doing exactly the right amount of work. No one likes working too little or working needlessly much. Yet, we live in a society where the politicians start honking like geese when there &#x27;aren&#x27;t enough jobs&#x27;. That&#x27;s like saying there aren&#x27;t enough bugs for me to fix. When the work&#x27;s done right, there&#x27;s no work to be done and we move on to something new. Not so in our system. When the work&#x27;s done, you better find more work or you will fall into calamity and you will have deserved it. When you tie all human existence to producing value for your boss, work becomes a slavish social contract and not the means by which human beings improve the world for ourselves and each other.<p>Trust people, and they act trustworthy. Respect people, and they act respectable. Give people the trust and respect required to give them autonomy in their work, and they will do amazing things for themselves and you. The most lovely software I work with is produced for <i>free</i>, and it tends to be amazingly good work, done from a position of respect, trust, and generosity.<p>I&#x27;m sure many people are tired of my lefty whinging about capitalism, but the longer I live, the more it doesn&#x27;t make sense for my personal productivity or fulfillment. I&#x27;m pretty tired of having a sword hanging by a thread over my head in a cynical attempt to make me &#x27;be a productive member of society&#x27;. It makes me <i>less</i> productive! It makes me <i>less</i> happy! I&#x27;m tired of having to see everyone whose labor goes into the comfort of my life as a greedy adversary who would destroy me if this system weren&#x27;t around to &#x27;protect me&#x27;.
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copsarebastards超过 9 年前
This article is basically a diluted version of Bob Black&#x27;s <i>The Abolition of Work</i>[1].<p>I&#x27;m not sure how possible Black&#x27;s vision is <i>now</i> because I think there&#x27;s still scarcity, but it needs to be considered because it&#x27;s a much better future than the one we&#x27;re heading toward if we keep pretending that the capitalist work&#x2F;ownership model is meritocratic. In the future, <i>all</i> jobs can be automated, and we&#x27;re going to run into very deep issues long before even half are automated.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.primitivism.com&#x2F;abolition.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.primitivism.com&#x2F;abolition.htm</a>
unabst超过 9 年前
Any labor with love is a privilege. Any labor without love is sacrifice. It&#x27;s safe to say people are more than capable of being content with sacrifice. Foxconn workers protesting the enforcement of US labor restrictions is a good example. They&#x27;re there to make a sacrifice, not live their lives.<p>In the west, resistance towards sacrifice is appears to be mounting. But what is work but an activity that generates value for which you receive a kickback? And there are plenty of activities that are lovable and that generate value. Hence, the movement towards lifestyle jobs and placing passion first is only natural. Entrepreneurs could hold the key here, because they have proven they&#x27;re capable of generating those jobs, beginning with themselves.<p>“Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life.”<p>― Confucius
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bceagle超过 9 年前
I have found people that are often the most satisfied at work are the ones that have figured out the best way to play a game with their own emotions and instincts. They understand when they are tired and what makes them tired. The know how to dangle the carrot in front of themselves to get to the next level. Sure, they may dislike work at some instinctual level just like everyone else, but they control that along with everything else in their lives.
ilaksh超过 9 年前
Left out of these discussions is the division between worker and owner. Classism and elitism are main problems for our society.<p>That is not to suggest everyone start quoting Marx, give up money, and assume some kind of techno-communist utopia will just fall out.<p>I think technology and decentralization are key, but we have to do quite a lot more thinking and engineering and integration of viewpoints than most people assume.
hackuser超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s clear that people will work hard for many things besides money; to suggest otherwise is absurd. The evidence is right in front of our noses, every day: Consider artists, scientists, scholars, soldiers (some of whom risk their lives in the worst working environment you can imagine, and need food stamps), teachers, FOSS software developers, explorers, parents, political and social movement leaders and members, etc.<p>(I wonder how much Adam Smith made? I also wonder if he really said the things he represents to us now.)
vowelless超过 9 年前
&gt; Its survey last year found that almost 90 percent of workers were either “not engaged” with or “actively disengaged” from their jobs.<p>Is this true? That seems like an very high number.
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HCIdivision17超过 9 年前
Just a note that the article (perhaps inadvertently) confuses a little: industrial manufacturing <i>must</i> be highly routinized and boring if it&#x27;s working well. Tolerances are very tight for well made manufactured goods, since they have to be to be assembled into larger, more complex goods. Let an operator get creative with a running process, and all bets are off [0].<p>Besides! People are also <i>terrible</i> at that sort of work, so it&#x27;s better to automate the job and have the people supervise machines. The machines do the terrible soul-crushing tedious work and the worker oversees the hiccups and glitches. (Machines are pretty lousy supervisors, and are difficult to program supervisory roles in the messy situations a lot of manufacturing happens in.)<p>And keep in mind that&#x27;s for a <i>running</i> line or process. I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s room for creativity on carrying out the line&#x27;s program, but there&#x27;s endless opportunities for planning and improving the process off-line. People are great at deliberation, planning, and brainstorming. (<i>Too</i> good, some may cynically say :) I.e., you&#x27;ll never get a better ROI than buying a group of operators lunch and let them rail at you about something that irritates them about a line. And include them in planning&#x2F;upgrade meetings; they own the line, after all!<p>And there&#x27;s the exception of those times where it just makes economic sense to plop a person down for something boring and lonely. For example, the cost of vision control tech is getting ever more affordable and powerful, but it still takes a substantial amount of engineering work to actually install and tune the system for the specific situation it&#x27;s in; by contrast, people are cheaper in the short-run and can be reasonably effective very quickly. (It&#x27;s mind boggling when you see a failure that you think, &quot;I could have paid a guy a year&#x27;s salary to sit in a chair and watch for that one obvious, uncommon failure mode event.&quot;)<p>[0] This is an interesting dichotomy: the workers <i>must</i> own the process they&#x27;re working on, but they also need to not constantly fiddle with settings. If they&#x27;re not <i>actively</i> tweaking stuff, then they feel disenfranchised, and if they are constantly messing with stuff then the operator is simulating a randomly tuned PID loop on whatever dials happen to be nearby. The root is that people are generally terrible at figuring out the difference between &quot;normal variation&quot; and &quot;exceptional variation&quot;, and tune both. So when Deming talks of <i>knowledge of variation</i>, this has to be balanced by <i>knowledge of psychology</i>.<p>And that balancing act brings us to this article&#x27;s contention.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;W._Edwards_Deming#Key_principles" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;W._Edwards_Deming#Key_principl...</a>
hencq超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m a great fan of Sociotechnical systems [1] for exactly the reasons mentioned in this article. A lot of focus is put on making jobs more meaningful and giving workers more responsibilities. The theory is that this will ultimately lead to higher productivity.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sociotechnical_system" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sociotechnical_system</a>
dunkelheit超过 9 年前
The article contains a charming contradiction which really shows how in the end &quot;scientific management&quot; gets its dues: it tries to show that scientific management is so much worse than so-called &quot;enligtened management&quot; using... methods of scientific management! (e.g. hard metrics like sales growth).