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Can the Appalachian Trail Survive ‘A Walk in the Woods?’

45 点作者 trevin超过 9 年前

12 条评论

sandworm101超过 9 年前
The generational shift isn&#x27;t between people, but between decades. Many of the &quot;leave no trace&quot; hikers today were very different in their youth. Look through the history and you will find people in the 60s regularly doing things that today are simply not allowed (fires, cutting down small trees etc). So it isn&#x27;t that people are different today. There are just more of them on trails.<p>Some would say the answer is to provide more services such as better camping accommodations and harder trail surfaces to handle the extra people. I do not support this. I suggest that making trails easier attracts more people, only exacerbating the problem. It&#x27;s a game that cannot be won.<p>So rather than try to accommodate all these people, perhaps parts of the trail should be made less accommodating. Rock climbers do this all the time. See debates over sport (heavily bolted) v. traditional climbing methods. Adding safety features to a route attracts more traffic. Making&#x2F;keeping a route difficult or even dangerous keeps beginners away, which reduces traffic. If we assume that there will always be more people in the future than there are now, that if nothing changes population pressure will always increase, then actively trying to keep people away may be the only sustainable plan.
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WDCDev超过 9 年前
I REALLY want to explain this away as the complaining from some grumpy park rangers. Then you have these stories and you begin to wonder if there is something generational going on.<p>Prom Date spray painted on Black Rocks -<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jonathanturley.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;08&#x2F;destinys-child-police-search-for-teenager-who-defaced-park-cliff-to-snag-a-date-to-the-prom&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jonathanturley.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;08&#x2F;destinys-child-police-s...</a><p>Casey Nocket - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stgeorgeutah.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;08&#x2F;ams-woman-paints-faces-defacing-8-national-parks-including-zion-canyonlands&#x2F;#.VenrqBHBzRY" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stgeorgeutah.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;08&#x2F;ams-woma...</a>
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maresca超过 9 年前
I don&#x27;t think this is as much of an issue as being portrayed. I&#x27;ve hiked 2 sections of the AT this summer and found no trash in either of them. I could see certain parts like the beginning and ending being worse, which would be expected. Designated camping spots weren&#x27;t overcrowded. Besides cheeky motivational sayings written over trail markers, everything in both sections were pristine.
meritt超过 9 年前
Not a fan of either film but I really enjoyed both books. I think Wild has substantially further reach, especially among women, while Bryson&#x27;s book is amusing and entertaining, yet ultimately forgettable. Either way, an increase in Americans focused on exercise, spending time in the wilderness, and general soul-searching activities will be a good thing.
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cakeface超过 9 年前
&quot;Baxter officials say thru-hikers are openly using drugs and drinking alcohol, camping where they aren’t supposed to, and trying to pass their pets off as service dogs.&quot; - Sounds like a pretty good time to me.<p>I don&#x27;t think that I can get behind a complaint that people are hiking in the wilderness _too much_. This is a good problem to have.
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debacle超过 9 年前
The biggest problem I see today is that there are so many hikers who say &quot;leave no trace&quot; and then kind of just treat the outdoors like their bedroom.<p>You can&#x27;t do anything about the boat campers and the cooler campers, but the backpackers and hikers that I have been around have been less conservation minded than I would like.
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protomyth超过 9 年前
Gary Player had an epic rant[1] about public golf courses getting harder and its affect on amateur numbers. I point to that example to explain my worry about making the trails more inaccessible to cut down the traffic. Making the normal person see the trail as a plaything for the elitist will not help future funding.<p>1) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Ha59iKfjTxw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Ha59iKfjTxw</a>
astr0n0m3r超过 9 年前
Here&#x27;s the ALDHA&#x27;s newsletter from this past winter which gives a more detailed account of the problems at Katahdin. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aldha.org&#x2F;newsletter&#x2F;2014D_winter.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aldha.org&#x2F;newsletter&#x2F;2014D_winter.pdf</a><p>I thru-hiked in 2007, and many of the problems now were in their infancy but not out of hand yet. There has always been a couple bad apples, but this is simply a result of the numbers.<p>In June, I was visiting family near the trail at the same time the wave of thru-hikers comes by, and I couldn&#x27;t believe how many there were. I also gave two thru-hikers a hitch, so I had a chance to talk to them about some of this. They estimated about 4x as many hikers compared to the year I thru-hiked. And I think they said there was one campsite somewhere down south with 89 tents (or hikers I can&#x27;t remember) in a single night. One of them said they were hiking this year specifically because they heard the movie was coming out.
JoeAltmaier超过 9 年前
Fundamentally, the Earth is finite and people are growing geometrically. If we&#x27;re not at the &#x27;natural spaces and trails&#x27; load limit now, we will get there sometime soon.<p>Rationing is a frustrating solution. It means, only the special few get to enjoy these spaces. Then it no longer &#x27;belongs to all of us&#x27; i.e. isn&#x27;t a public space any more. So should the Federal Govt even administer it? Why do we all pay for it, when only a special few get to go there?<p>I&#x27;m not anti-conservation. But these questions inevitably will arise as population (&amp; demand) grows and the public spaces stay exactly the same size.
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chiph超过 9 年前
I hate to see a quota imposed, but if the problems increase (who takes a hairdryer into the wilderness??) maybe there needs to be some qualification hikes, much like how you have to finish a certain number of marathons before being allowed into the Boston marathon.
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meursault334超过 9 年前
Was it even a good movie? I&#x27;ve heard pretty negative things about. I&#x27;m a fan of long distance walks but I&#x27;ve been reluctant to see the movie thus far.
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jqm超过 9 年前
Maybe coming soon: a toll gate. Onstensibly to pay for trash pickup. Really to pay for a park official mid-management bureaucrat&#x27;s pension.