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Quantum Theory from Five Reasonable Axioms (2001)

37 点作者 ClintEhrlich超过 9 年前

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j2kun超过 9 年前
&gt; Axiom 5 (which requires that there exist continuous reversible transformations between pure states) rules out classical probability theory. If Axiom 5 (or even just the word &quot;continuous&quot; from Axiom 5) is dropped then we obtain classical probability theory instead.<p>I actually recently read this paper and wondered the following question: what experiment supports the need for axiom 5, distinguishing quantum mechanics from classical probability theory? This came up because I always hear about &quot;2-norm preserving unitary operators&quot; as the only reasonable theory for quantum computing, which is of course different from classical probability. Is it just Occam&#x27;s razor that to achieve the same results in experiments one would need to impose some large number of new states to a particle?<p>Most of my understanding comes from a light reading of Nielsen-Chuang and Aaronson&#x27;s stuff. (A minor tangent: a theorem from computer science informs me that complex numbers aren&#x27;t needed if you&#x27;re willing to get a &quot;good enough approximation&quot; and polynomial blowup, but this paper argues complex numbers <i>are</i> necessary, even for finite&#x2F;countable state spaces; I want to read the paper a bit closer to figure out where this discrepancy is).<p>This culminated in the following physics stackexchange question, which was probably not worded in the best way for the physics community[1]. I still don&#x27;t really understand any of the answers. Maybe someone on HN can elucidate it for me :)<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;physics.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;205742&#x2F;what-experiment-supports-the-axiom-that-quantum-operations-are-reversible" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;physics.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;205742&#x2F;what-exper...</a>
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ClintEhrlich超过 9 年前
If the paper is a little dry but you are interested in the concept of axiomatically deriving quantum theory, try this wonderful written lesson from Scott Aaronson: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scottaaronson.com&#x2F;democritus&#x2F;lec9.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scottaaronson.com&#x2F;democritus&#x2F;lec9.html</a><p>The lecture is part of his course, &quot;Quantum Computing Since Democritus,&quot; which features some of the clearest prose you will find anywhere on topics like complexity theory and P vs. NP.
scottlocklin超过 9 年前
I remember when this came out I found it less than satisfying. Quantum mechanics is a theory of physics, and those axioms are not physical. Rovelli&#x27;s earlier ideas are mathematically equivalent, far more physical and come closer to answering some real questions. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fr.arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;quant-ph&#x2F;9609002" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fr.arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;quant-ph&#x2F;9609002</a>
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