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Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

106 点作者 jeo1234超过 9 年前

13 条评论

codebeaker超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network.<p>Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I&#x27;ve never heard of, at times that I wasn&#x27;t in the house.<p>Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named &quot;Störerhaftung&quot; I am by default responsible, and have to pay both claims (in the order of €5,000 each). I have no recourse.<p>Tech-savvy as I am, powerless to defend against a case such as this, where do I stand, I could theoretically bring a case against AVM Deutschland (manufacturer of the Fritzrepeater) but then the burden is on me to prove their buggy software failed, and reset to factory settings.<p>An impossible situation, and I hope that laws such as these move in the direction of transparency, the Störerhaftung is designed to make sure that someone who loses out always has someone to claim against (common other uses, are for example if drunks throw stones from the top of a building, and then run away, the building owner is responsible, in lieu of finding and proving that the drunkards were responsible) - it&#x27;s arcane, and whilst well intended, and the &quot;terrorism&quot; argument holds strong, this is about copyright, and always maintaining the Störerhaftung right.
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wifi_germany超过 9 年前
This bill is actually heavily criticized in germany, for example by the Freifunk initiative: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;freifunkstattangst.de&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;16&#x2F;neuer-tmg-entwurf-zur-notifizierung-an-die-eu-noch-immer-keine-rechtssicherheit-wlan-stoererhaftung-bleibt&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;freifunkstattangst.de&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;16&#x2F;neuer-tmg-entwurf-zu...</a> (german)<p>The bill requires network operators to make &quot;reasonable effort to secure the network against unauthorized access&quot; and to &quot;allow access only to users that have agreed not to violate the law during their use&quot; of the network.<p>The bill also takes service providers into liability if they offer &quot;gefahrgeeignete Dienste&quot; (I have no idea how that accurately translates to english).<p>Heise has more information in german: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heise.de&#x2F;newsticker&#x2F;meldung&#x2F;Bundesregierung-beschliesst-umstrittenen-WLAN-Gesetzentwurf-2818747.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heise.de&#x2F;newsticker&#x2F;meldung&#x2F;Bundesregierung-besch...</a>
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MrBuddyCasino超过 9 年前
&gt; providers won’t be held liable as long as they secure the network properly and get users to agree not to act illegally<p>Of course they had to include that paragraph, forcing everyone to tick some stupid check-box. As if the cookie agreements weren&#x27;t enough already.
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modeless超过 9 年前
&gt; as long as they [...] get users to agree not to act illegally<p>Is forcing everyone to set up captive portal pages just so people can check a stupid box on a form going to make anyone&#x27;s life better? Is it going to benefit anyone in any way? I can&#x27;t understand how anyone could possibly think that this requirement is a good idea.
Kequc超过 9 年前
Germany is no longer going to be one of the only places on Earth which punishes Wifi providers for what users do while on their network? I may actually be able to choose between more than 3 different cafes&#x27; that offer Wifi from my half of the city? (One fewer than a month ago.)<p>Wow. That would actually be fantastic thanks for getting on that.
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lucb1e超过 9 年前
Oh, that explains. I&#x27;ve always wondered why there are so incredibly few hotspots in Germany - and the few existing hotspots are paid. Voiced it a few times to Germans but nobody knew it was because operators would be held liable.
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expertentipp超过 9 年前
&gt; as long as they secure the network properly<p>How do I prove it? This right here is so abmahnung trolls can keep on threatening<p>&gt; and get users to agree not to act illegally<p>Yet another useless popup, cookie popup is not enough<p>&gt; ”digital agenda” aimed at blanketing the country with high-speed Internet by 2018<p>A yeah, &quot;VDSL for all&quot;. Where do I buy VDSL modem in 2018? I will have to break into Technisches Museum and steal one (no, I don&#x27;t want your &quot;free&quot; fritzbox)
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rotoole超过 9 年前
This is an issue across many EU countries, that require by law that WiFi providers track what their users do online, and to keep a permanent record of it. Its onerous to implement and support. I believe it arose from anti-terrorism legislation.
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denzil_correa超过 9 年前
Thanks Merkel for the small mercies! I do know of at least one free WiFi providing service in Germany - &quot;Freifunk Saar&quot;.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saar.freifunk.net" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saar.freifunk.net</a>
pm3003超过 9 年前
From the &quot;WLAN&quot; café I spent 2 weeks to find in Kiel (currently in a seminar, no internet access), and having just paid my €40 bill for 6 GB (bad) 3G Internet this month, I fully approve this bill.<p>I also hope at some point cellular internet will get cheaper in Germany... France 20€ 20 GB, Latvia 10 € 20GB with LTE, Germany 500MB 12€.
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expertentipp超过 9 年前
Each time Germans are passing any internet related laws or their brave lawyers are winning another case against evil Facebook&#x2F;Google I&#x27;m just facepalming. They keep on hurting themselves, which part of the internet is so difficult they are not capable of understanding?
odiroot超过 9 年前
Can we shut down GEMA while we&#x27;re at that?
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mtgx超过 9 年前
Is that why Wi-Fi is so bad all over Berlin?
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