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Portugal's Velocidade Controlada – speed control traffic signals

41 点作者 mblakele超过 9 年前

7 条评论

mig39超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve heard from my Portuguese cousins that they do it this way because speed cameras aren&#x27;t legal, but red light cameras are.<p>So while they can&#x27;t give you a fine for speeding based on photo radar, they can give you a fine for running a red light.<p>Not sure if it&#x27;s true or not. But I&#x27;ve experienced the same red lights in the middle of nowhere while driving in Portugal. There&#x27;s also the social pressure of triggering one of these -- it stops traffic and then you get the glares from all around.<p>Portugal is also obsessed with roundabouts of all sizes, which I think are a traffic-calming and safety thing as well. Even small intersections in the rural areas have roundabouts rather than the standard North American-style 4-way stop signs.
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eCa超过 9 年前
When I travelled through Spain back in &#x27;99 these were pretty common. They usually turned green when cars had slowed down to the speed limit. I travelled by bike so I didn&#x27;t trigger them very often..<p>&gt; Robocars of course would know where all these are and never trigger one, even if the occupants have commanded the vehicle to exceed the limit.<p>I will be very surprised if occupants of self driving vehicles have that option.
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justacodefan超过 9 年前
One thing that the author may not be aware of is that, despite the light turning red for you and oncoming traffic, it <i>may</i> turn green for any side streets. Running the red light has potential consequences much more severe than just a ticket (such as crashing into another driver) so no one ever dares to do so.<p>I completely agree that these are better than speed bumps because people speed through those too. And there&#x27;s no need to slow down to 15 Km&#x2F;hr either, you can do it at the speed limit with some margin of error (around 15% iirc).
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smackay超过 9 年前
The interesting part of Velocidade Controlada is the attitude&#x2F;culture behind it: prevention rather than punishment. Compare this to the UK where the equivalent system is a hidden camera and a series fines with the intention on criminalizing the driver.<p>Now if only this kinds of enlightened thinking could be exteneded to driving and talking on cell phones, driving at 200 km&#x2F;h on the main highways and excessive speed at cross-walks then the roads in Portugal could become much safer and fewer lives would the ruined.
dzhiurgis超过 9 年前
Sounds like a great opportunity to mass produce and sell to other countries.<p>If you employ solar and use readily available components, they must come out cheaper than doing roadwork.<p>Sending photos to centralized database might be more expensive part, but then, perhaps those could be relayed for free via WiFi around (more social pressure).
joeyo超过 9 年前
Sounds a little bit like (though more sophisticated than) the timed lights that some cities employ, for example Oak and Fell streets in San Francisco. If you go the speed limit you&#x27;ll get green all the way though; if you speed you&#x27;ll just sit at a red light.
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jchrisa超过 9 年前
In America these are called &quot;rest on red&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=j6EBUR8sPmc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=j6EBUR8sPmc</a>
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