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Microsoft’s Very Good Day

190 点作者 jeo1234超过 9 年前

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delish超过 9 年前
I struggle with changing my perception of Microsoft. I still characterize them by their Halloween documents and efforts to destroy Netscape.<p>I would recommend the Surface to friends or family, which is a recent change. But <i>I</i> would never use Microsoft products. And not just because I&#x27;d be giving up years of Linux folk-knowledge. Childishly, when I watch a youtube video of someone far more skilled than me programming in Windows, I recoil a little.<p>I strive to avoid bias; I don&#x27;t want the change in perception to happen merely after people like me die. My bias is fallacious, but it holds like any other deeply-felt bias.<p>Hell, I only recently stopped calling them <i>M$</i>.
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octref超过 9 年前
Microsoft feels like the new Apple to me.<p>I haven&#x27;t used Apple&#x27;s product in Jobs&#x27; era, but I&#x27;ve heard a lot of good stories about how solid and easy-to-use their software was. Now I&#x27;m on Yosemite, experiencing annoying bugs and unexpected quits&#x2F;freezes on a daily basis. I don&#x27;t even dare to update to El Capitan. Yesterday I upgraded to XCode 7.0.1, and all my swift projects failed to compile. If it&#x27;s not for the touchpad and screen I&#x27;d rather go back to my Arch Linux laptop.<p>Apple isn&#x27;t bringing any more surprise or delight to me hardware-wise. And their software quality is declining day-by-day. Development wise, just take a look at XCode&#x27;s newest reviews to learn how bad the dev experience is. Developers are what makes a platform succeed, and Apple doesn&#x27;t seem to realize that.<p>However, MS has been amazing since Nadella. My favorite news is open sourcing .NET and making it available for Linux. VSCode is also solid and even feels more polished than Atom to me. Hololens looks cool. Surface definitely lives up to its hype.<p>Last week I interviewed with MS. At the end I asked about the interviewer&#x27;s opinion on MS&#x27;s change and attitude to Open Source, and in his response he had this line: &quot;Because Open Source is the future&quot;. I can hardly imagine a MS staff in pre-Nadella era would have such opinions. MS has changed. I think people should put down their prejudice about MS&#x27;s past and admit that. Going to Redmond next Wed for an onsite. Wish myself good luck.
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ZeroGravitas超过 9 年前
There&#x27;s been lots of positive announcements from Microsoft recently, but I think I&#x27;ll save the applause for when they can do those cool things and actually make money from it, not from extorting cash for patents, office document lock-in, and all their other &quot;bad microsoft&quot; stuff.
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mrmondo超过 9 年前
Clickbate marketing article name with little valuable substance. I tried Windows 10 in tablet mode and I found the whole experience to be disjointed. It felt out of touch with recent UX trends &#x2F; advancements, the same old thing with a new skin and even more tiles. Everything I wanted to do took more &#x27;clicks&#x27; that I was happy with and there&#x27;s little-to-no consideration to power users. Am I the only one that doesn&#x27;t see any signs of real innovation here?
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Aldo_MX超过 9 年前
<i>Godwin&#x27;s Law warning</i><p>I find more ridiculous the statement &quot;we will never forgive Microsoft&quot; than saying &quot;we will never forgive Germany&quot;.<p>They&#x27;re a company, not a charity, they&#x27;re in the business of making money, and if making money implies using &quot;dirty tactics&quot; such as saying phone manufacturers &quot;bundle Office in your phones or we will use our patents against you&quot; it will certainly happen regardless of which company we&#x27;re talking about.<p>Also, you should not be angered at Microsoft for collaborating with the NSA, but be angered at America for forcing companies to collaborate with the NSA. If you were in the position of Microsoft would you reject and risk loosing your company? Don&#x27;t be ridiculous! If Apple is playing to be the victim right now, is because it&#x27;s more profitable for them after the public outrage that followed Snowden&#x27;s revelations.<p>There is a real world outside the Free Software bubble, a real world where companies struggle to survive and any means to survive, even at the expense of the competition, will certainly happen.
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roymurdock超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s funny how people will believe that one person, Satya Nadella, can have such a profound impact on a company of hundreds of thousands of people. It&#x27;s all about crafting a story and offering people an explanation for why the company is changing.<p>I wish there was some type of bayesian submarine-ometer[1] that took the baseline percentage chance of any &quot;article&quot; being dressed-up PR on a particular website and performed some type of analysis on the company&#x27;s marketing spend, brand perception, buzzwords, the interests of the article&#x27;s author, and the article&#x27;s similarity to other positive articles on the company&#x2F;product.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;submarine.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;submarine.html</a>
ChuckMcM超过 9 年前
I could not help myself, I had to get a surface book, it may end up in the pile of things with great potential but I had to give it a shot. Two devices were in the running for my 2015 tablet HW refresh, the Lenovo Yoga 3 and the iPad Pro. This sort of came out of left field.<p>It has a lot to live up to, I use my iPad every day and for a variety of things, but something I always wanted to do on my iPad, sketch, wasn&#x27;t very satisfactory. And while I liked the Surface Pro 3&#x27;s pen experience, its battery life was a challenge and some key Apps weren&#x27;t there.<p>So long battery life, a better drawing experience, and a useful typing experience, and, for bonus, I can stop carrying around a laptop as well? Well if this thing can pull that off its a win for me, and I&#x27;ll just put vmware workstation on it and run Linux when I&#x27;m doing my embedded work.<p>But the other thing it has done is really highlight the impact of market windows. Had the iPad Pro come out last year, or even in Q1 of this year, I would be using it already and probably not be buying the Surface Book.<p>For historical reasons the first thing I bought to try to do what I wanted was the &quot;Touchbook&quot; from Always Innovating. Detachable keyboard, touch screen. But not enough battery life, and the screen&#x27;s resistive touch screen was not very useful. I also have the Illiad 2 from iREX which an an epaper display with a watcom stylus, loved the pen, and the readability of epaper, but very little app support and challenging storage options. For a while I&#x27;ve lived with both a laptop and the iPad. I&#x27;m really curious if this new box can meet my expectations.
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awjr超过 9 年前
Their partnership with Google over Typescript and the general openness that they are pushing is fantastic. I really feel they are giving a lot to the developer community.<p>The Surface Book is an exceptional piece of kit. It is telling that the top end book (16GB&#x2F;512SSD) was the only one at one point to be sold-out on pre-order. None of the other options include 16GB of ram and I think this is a shame, but you cannot fault what they have done here.<p>Kudos. Microsoft now gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
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hliyan超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s amazing to think that such a massive behemoth could change direction in so little time.
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ableal超过 9 年前
<i>&quot;The company was so in love with P.C.s (the hub for all things and for all time to come) that it came late to the Internet and much, much too late to mobile phones.&quot;</i><p>In the early 2000s, Microsoft did try pushing tablet computers, &quot;pocket PCs&quot; based on Windows CE (rivals to Palm PDAs) and even had Windows Phone OS in some smartphones.<p>That did not gain traction, because the user experience was not captivating, and they had missed the insight that fingers would be the way to go. (I&#x27;m not sure if earlier the capacitive touchscreen technology was already available in alternative to the resistive screens that required a stylus.)<p>I&#x27;d say that Apple&#x27;s post-2007 success would not be possible without learning from Microsoft&#x27;s expensive failures. But Microsoft did try.
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andosa超过 9 年前
It definitely feels like Microsoft is on the right track with Nadella in charge.
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Keyframe超过 9 年前
I don&#x27;t have much feelings towards companies and technology. I use ones as I see fit. Windows has, since 7, been very useful to me. Even 8 (8.1 which I&#x27;m on right now). Windows has been my primary OS since 7. I augment it with Total Commander and Babun (cygwin) and that&#x27;s it. Everything is great, except Babun which could use some more work (or I don&#x27;t know how to use it). I also use Redhat on other workstation (due to graphics software dictating it) and it&#x27;s not as usable on desktop as Windows and OSX are. That&#x27;s not a surprise though. I also use OSX on my macbook air, because that&#x27;s the best laptop I could&#x27;ve got for what I needed (lightweight, moderately powerful, battery life). I carry around Android Nexus 7 tablet as well, so new Surface Book looks like a good deal to me in order to get rid of macbook air&#x2F;nexus 7 combo. Microsoft research also does some cool stuff in graphics which I&#x27;ve used (through their papers). I use Word and Excel all the time as well, along with Google Docs. those are just some random thoughts as I perceive them from my POV now.
ksk超过 9 年前
Microsoft to me has always been good at &#x27;businessy&#x27; stuff. Embrace partners, embrace developers, and keep users somewhat satisfied. If you help others make money, they&#x27;re going to love you. Apple has been good at &#x27;designy&#x27; stuff. Wow and embrace users, keep developers and partners somewhat satisfied. This explains why Apple doesn&#x27;t really care about backwards compat, or communicating&#x2F;co-coordinating releases with partners, etc. It looks like MS is taking a leaf out of Apples book. I wonder if they can continue to do the other stuff as well.
rottyguy超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m really surprised it didn&#x27;t touch on the oncoming xplat-ness of .net in this round up. I feel like this is huge considering how much it connects the technology. To boot, c# is a top 10 language on github even though it&#x27;s primarily a single platform language (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2047-language-trends-on-github" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2047-language-trends-on-github</a>)
listic超过 9 年前
Microsoft&#x27;s offerings still seem under-designed to me, on a second look. I still can&#x27;t order Surface Pro (or Surface Book) with cellular modem; only Surface 3, an older and supposedly lower end device. I can&#x27;t order Surface Book with 1TB drive, only a Surface Pro 4; despite the former being a more expensive and supposedly higher end device.<p>Why so? As far as I understand, Microsoft still goes with the templates their hardware OEMs already have: Surface is based on a tablet template, while Surface Pro and Surface Book are supposedly based on different laptop templates and the available options are thus defined by the OEMs. This also explains why the &#x27;Pro&#x27; versions 1 and 2 had cameras inferior to the &#x27;non-Pro&#x27; versions.<p>I wish Microsoft got their act together and gave more attention to design, while they are at it. If they are saying this is a tablet that <i>can</i> replace my computer, let it have what those tablets that <i>can&#x27;t</i> have: cellular module. If it has a non-removable hard drive, let me have it in the greatest available capacity, sepecially while you already offer that on a lower-priced model.
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kriro超过 9 年前
I kind of thought the headline referred to the fact that they did finally release a patch that makes connecting to Exchange servers via Outlook possible again in the latest OS X. [too snarky, maybe but it was a pretty hilarious situation where both Apple and Microsoft failed fairly hard for a (short) while]
alexschleber超过 9 年前
The piece and ars technica video show both the good and the bad of this new MSFT attempt:<p>Some good ideas, but let&#x27;s be real - ultimately a total niche product at $1500. Compare that the surface pro 3 has been selling about 3-4 million units in the last year ( q3&#x2F;2014 - q2&#x2F;2015 revenue was estimated around $3b, on devices costing about $800 + $130 keyboard), while Apple sells about 20m Mac units in the same timeframe, which is in itself STILL a niche!  www.statista.com&#x2F;statistics&#x2F;263444&#x2F;sales-of-apple-mac-computers-since-first-quarter-2006&#x2F;<p>I just don&#x27;t see how this is going to make any sort of real dent.
draw_down超过 9 年前
I remember using a Windows machine in 2006 that could also double as a tablet. (You could pivot the screen around and then fold it back on top of the keyboard.) It wasn&#x27;t very good of course, and my point is that this idea is not new by a long shot. So is the enthusiasm for Surface Book coming from the fact that it&#x27;s made by MS themselves?<p>Beyond that, it strikes me that the way they talk focuses so much more on narrative than the actual products they&#x27;re selling. Like &quot;I want you to love MS because you love building things for other people&quot; or whatever.
walkingolof超过 9 年前
Wonder how much Nadella really changed vs the changed perception of the company, much of this stuff must have been brewing while Ballmer was at the helm..
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alinspired超过 9 年前
MS&#x2F;Windows&#x2F;Office has always been a workhorse for me, but i might be in the process of becoming a MS fanboy :)