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Larry Lessig: I'm All In

324 点作者 command_tab超过 9 年前

25 条评论

jacobolus超过 9 年前
&gt; <i>But it weakened the credibility of the campaign. Was I really trying to be president? Or was I just trying to make a point?</i><p>Obvious answer: he’s just trying to make a point, the whole thing is a publicity stunt, and his campaign has never had and still does not have any credibility whatsoever.<p>&gt; <i>But the result was almost no national media focused on a campaign that was actually more viable than that of at least two of the other Democratic candidates,</i><p>“More viable” meaning that when you add up the poll numbers for Lessig plus those other two candidates, the percentage rounds to zero. Likewise they have no budget, no endorsements, a tiny donor base, no institutional support from the Democratic party, no grass-roots campaign organization, etc. etc.<p>Lessig’s approach to politics is to shout “HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME! I don’t have any experience or support, and I haven’t tried to engage with the political system before, but vote for me because all those other guys are corrupt!” That works if you’re a billionaire with universal name-recognition like Trump, running in a primary with a bunch of weak other candidates, targeting primary voters responsive to knee-jerk racism and insults. Lessig isn’t Trump though.<p>In the 2014 midterm elections his PAC raised a moderate amount of money mostly from Silicon Valley VCs, threw it at a handful of congressional races, and had absolutely zero impact on anything.<p>Seems like it’s not working out this time either.
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grizzles超过 9 年前
Lessig is just as electable as anyone out there, but I am not sure he is much of a strategic thinker. He just gave up the one thing that made his #hackthepresidency style campaign interesting.<p>At this point &amp; with the right campaign you could run a rump roast for the presidency and it&#x27;d have a decent shot at grabbing a signficant share of the vote.<p>I could name way more but Lessig top problems imo are:<p>He lacks conviction. That rump roast is more red blooded than he is. If you are running for president, you can&#x27;t just expect to win based on having a few good ideas. You need forcefulness. Someone says you can&#x27;t attend a debate? You don&#x27;t kick back and watch it on tv. You show up anyway and have your supporters provoke a riot when they don&#x27;t let you in. Hopefully the media makes a field day out of it. Arrested? Even better. It fits in with your narrative.<p>Lessig&#x27;s next big problem is - He needs an angle. Lessig seems to be too principled to participate in the usual games that gets people to the oval. That puts him at a big disadvantage. If he doesn&#x27;t like how the sausage is made, he needs a strategy or SOMETHING to compensate for the power the machine gives you. Trump is a natural showman. Rubio is handsome, Ben Carson is a religious nut. Each of these guys is in the race, but Lessig isn&#x27;t. Until Lessig finds something that gives him some oomph, he might as well just curl up into a fetal.
bsbechtel超过 9 年前
I realize I&#x27;ll probably get downvoted in this thread for saying this, but allowing more money into politics is actually giving people more choice in elections, and Lessig is becoming a victim of the problems with the system before Citizens United. Between both parties, we have over 20 people running for President. We have more choice than ever. Why? Because these individuals can afford to do so, and don&#x27;t need to rely on getting mainstream media attention to find donors they need to finance their campaign. Lessig, on the other hand, is running a campaign to fix campaign finance, and is running into issues with what hobbled the system before - media gatekeepers who aren&#x27;t giving his campaign any attention. Yes, I understand that allowing the free flow of money into politics favors the wealthy, but at least now there is some sort of counterbalancing force to the media basically deciding who becomes our President. I don&#x27;t know what would be a true democratic equalizer (maybe eliminating political parties), but Lessig&#x27;s way of doing things had more problems than many want to acknowledge.
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smacktoward超过 9 年前
<i>&gt; This change now sharpens the difference between our campaign and the others. Now the strongest contrast in substance is the priority that I give to democratic reform. This difference should then press an obvious question for every other candidate: How do you expect to achieve what you are promising without this reform? And if you believe this reform is necessary, then why isn’t it your first priority?</i><p>But in all these words he never gets around to explaining how as President he would <i>actually make the reform happen</i>, other than saying it&#x27;d be his &quot;first priority&quot; and (twice) that he would &quot;work with Congress.&quot;<p>Oh, is <i>that</i> all it&#x27;s going to take to completely upend the deeply entrenched systemic power of elites who are richer than Croesus, Larry? We just need a President who <i>wants</i> it bad enough, and is willing to ask Congress for it nicely? Huh.<p>I bet Barack Obama wishes he&#x27;d thought of that. All this time he could have just gone down to Capitol Hill, clicked his heels three times and made the Koch brothers disappear! Who knew?<p>Lessig is such a paradox to me. His heart&#x27;s in the right place, he&#x27;s clearly earnest, and he&#x27;s managed to accomplish some remarkable things, like Creative Commons. But every time he wades into electoral politics he does so in ways that are so desperately naïve that they&#x27;d be funny, if the stakes weren&#x27;t so high. It&#x27;s Mr. Bean Goes To Washington.
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thomasfoster96超过 9 年前
Observations from Australia:<p>* Lessig is trying to reform US politics with minimal grassroots support and from the outside. That&#x27;s pretty much impossible, even without the sort of broken system he&#x27;s trying to reform.<p>* Bernie Sanders seems to be offering similar reforms, though not as a No.1 priority. Lessig is essentially arguing that he&#x27;ll implement one Sanders policy as a priority, and then get out of the way - that sounds completely silly to me, and I don&#x27;t see why you wouldn&#x27;t just vote Sanders instead.<p>* I&#x27;d contend that the problems in US politics run much deeper than campaign finance - voting systems, the structure of government, separation of powers, etc all need a thorough look and possible overhaul. Any campaign finance reform would probably end up being disappointingly ineffective compared to how it&#x27;s being sold.
logn超过 9 年前
Lessig is not thinking this through. If he wants to be taken seriously as a candidate he&#x27;s going to need to address every single issue the others have. By the time he&#x27;s done that, his message will be diluted and sidetracked, and he&#x27;ll have groups of people who may support him on the corruption issue but disagree on other issues, e.g., how to handle Syria.<p>At this point he kind of reminds me of Donald Trump who also has not taken time to formulate many policy positions but just wants to the voters to trust him it&#x27;ll all be great.<p>Additionally, a big part of being President is just the relentless work at championing your causes and causing your opponents to fail if they refuse to compromise. Lessig seems allergic to this type of work, politics, and campaigning in general. I don&#x27;t know how he expects to get his legislation passed.<p>Even on the issue of corruption, I&#x27;m not sure he&#x27;s effectively explained his solution. He&#x27;s just laid out legislation to pass, but hasn&#x27;t detailed how he&#x27;ll get Congress to pass it without amendments that destroy it, how he&#x27;ll keep the Supreme Court from eviscerating it, and how the rules could withstand attempts to game them.
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bsimpson超过 9 年前
It&#x27;ll be interesting to hear his foreign policy. He&#x27;s probably the smartest guy running, and the least corrupt. That said, I&#x27;d have a hard time voting for someone whose only official job is to be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces and whose only platform is to be a placeholder representing the concept of reform. I want to know how he&#x27;s gonna handle {the Middle East, Russia, etc.}.
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natch超过 9 年前
I love Lessig but speaking of mistakes, he should do a poll about his glasses.<p>Whether he switches to something more likable or not will be an indicator of how savvy he would be on the job.
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javajosh超过 9 年前
I feel sad because I&#x27;m probably Lessig&#x27;s ideal target audience, but I don&#x27;t like any of this. I don&#x27;t like that he backed down so quickly from his first approach, because of the polls. Isn&#x27;t that what corrupt politicians do? I don&#x27;t like that he is so vague about what he&#x27;s going to do to fix corruption - I get it that it&#x27;s about taking money out of politics, but how do you get there, especially when Congress is seized up?<p>And I want to hear about other issues, too, if he&#x27;s seriously running for president. What about local police corruption, violence, and abuse? What about drone assassinations? What about corporate welfare that socializes risk and privatizes rewards? What about poverty and basic income? What about simplifying the legal system so that justice isn&#x27;t too expensive for most people? What about extra-legal punishment like no-fly lists? What about the goddamn NSA? What about the security theater at the airport we pay for and endure?<p>From the other candidates all we hear about is &quot;the economy&quot;, mid-east terrorism and related problems, immigration, and now and again (against all odds) climate change. From Lessig you just hear about corruption. If you want to impress me as a real Presidential candidate, speak eloquently about the days when the US would never have even considered torturing someone for any reason; when 1984 was a cautionary tale about surveillance, not a manual on how to do it; when we needed to work together to defeat an enemy, we did it, or to achieve a great goal like the moon, we did it, and how we can do it again, but this time we&#x27;re going to End Oil, worldwide. I want to hear about how we can use technology to make government at every level more accountable and more responsive, and I want to hear more about our aspirations. I want to hear that we will recover the first asteroid from the asteroid belt within 20 years. I want to hear that federal funding will be tied to the creation of independent police review panels in every major city. I want to hear that blanket surveillance will be made explicitly illegal.<p>But I don&#x27;t hear hardly any of that, not even from Lessig. Which makes me sad.
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solipsism超过 9 年前
I think Lessig should reinstate his promise to resign after passing the Citizen Equality Act, run as an independent, and pick a good conservative to be his running mate. The corruption of democracy by special interests is not only a Democratic issue. Hell, it&#x27;s one of the Tea Party&#x27;s Core Beliefs.<p>This would get him more attention, it would get some conservatives voting for him, and it would get some some progressives voting for him. As a progressive, I&#x27;d accept a term with a conservative president if it meant taking a huge step to fix the system as a whole.
hownottowrite超过 9 年前
I admire Mr. Lessig&#x27;s convictions and his ideas, but frankly the concept of a self-resigning President is half-baked. It reveals a fundamental lack of understanding about the role of the Presidency in United States politically and socially and image it projects to the world at large.<p>The United States isn&#x27;t a startup. You can&#x27;t have a Minimum Viable Presidency focused on a single issue.
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jroseattle超过 9 年前
This notion that &quot;outsiders&quot; are what it takes to reform government is a popular campaign theme, but has never succeeded. The basis for justification is essentially one of &quot;the system has made others corrupt, but not me&quot; -- it&#x27;s a play on principles rising above the temptation for personal gain in order to achieve reform. Aside from being untrue, we&#x27;ve actually seen how this plays out.<p>Many of the far-right members in the House of Representatives that identify with the Tea Party are also highly principled. Listen to their campaigns and you&#x27;ll hear how they&#x27;ll &quot;fix Washington&quot; and such. One may or may not agree with those principles, but many of those members are steadfast in their beliefs, and govern based on those beliefs.<p>And what has been accomplished? To quote Admiral Stockdale - Gridlock!<p>Reform will never happen with a single leader. It will take the right people in all levels of government to make it happen.
blazespin超过 9 年前
The way to create &quot;equality&quot; is via the libertarian movement. Get rid of the rules and social safety nets. Hell, let all the immigrants in! If we have a truly libertarian society, than it won&#x27;t be a problem. Giving government the power to chose who is rich and who is poor is not going to create &#x27;equality&#x27; (whatever that means), it&#x27;s just going to give the government the ability to handicap the able and enable the disabled.<p>That being said, I don&#x27;t believe &#x27;equality&#x27; is what we need. What we need it is a society that rewards those who teach, learn and work for the good of the community with security and dignity.
PythonicAlpha超过 9 年前
Larry Lessig definitively has my vote.<p>It is just inconvenient, that I am not an US-American. But if he would run for election in my country, I would give him my vote.<p>The reason: He really takes democracy seriously -- some thing, that I would not attest to most people in our government -- and definitively not to the leading politicians of most political parties in my country.<p>That is the reason, I fear that democracy is bound to fail -- and to be replaced by corporate ruling (in fact, we are already at this point, where corporations have much more power than politicians or voters).
ddw超过 9 年前
Lessig seems to be too in love with the idea to the point that he doesn&#x27;t realize that the execution is what matters.<p>He would&#x27;ve been better off organizing people to get one or more of the legit Dem candidates to promise to work on this reform if elected.<p>This also assumes that the president has enough influence to get meaningful reform passed which isn&#x27;t a reality with the current Congress.
morgante超过 9 年前
&gt; This change now sharpens the difference between our campaign and the others.<p>Not really. Now he&#x27;s just yet another candidate who has an issue they talk about more than the others. For Trump, it&#x27;s immigration. For Sanders, it&#x27;s wealth inequality.<p>Except he&#x27;s a fringe candidate talking about an abstract issue which most people don&#x27;t actually care about that much.
Bud超过 9 年前
Lessig should do something useful and realistic, instead of this grandstanding and pretending that he can go from zero-to-President in 2.4 seconds as if politics were some sort of Tesla. It&#x27;s embarrassing.<p>To wit: he should run for the House, or Senate, or he should support candidates who are in favor of overturning Citizens United (i.e., Democrats).
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jensen123超过 9 年前
Let&#x27;s say that Larry Lessig succeeds. What would happen then? Would it be primarily journalists who would influence the government then, rather than corporations and rich people? Journalists tend to be left-leaning. The left is probably better on some issues, such as the environment, however, they aren&#x27;t always so good for the economy and entrepreneurs. Personally, I&#x27;m really not sure whether the US would be a better or worse place without money in politics.
kakakaren超过 9 年前
I think many agree with Lessig&#x27;s policies. But I have serious doubts he wants to get money out of politics. If his voting history&#x27;s any indication, he wants the money in politics to be from a wider range of the population.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.politico.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;story&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;lessig-lawrence-democrats-debate-2016-213215" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.politico.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;story&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;lessig-lawren...</a>
lorddoig超过 9 年前
&gt; America gave birth to the idea of representative democracy<p>And here was me thinking that was the Greeks. Thousands of years before America existed.
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deckar01超过 9 年前
I first gained interest in Lessig when he offered a poll to vote for his vice president (who takes over when he steps down).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lessig2016.us&#x2F;vote4vp&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lessig2016.us&#x2F;vote4vp&#x2F;</a><p>I just love the idea of Neil deGrasse Tyson being president.
Ankaios超过 9 年前
Thank you, Mr. Lessig.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10138724" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10138724</a>
jlebar超过 9 年前
I largely agree with Lessig&#x27;s point about our campaign finance laws being the root of all evil, and I think he&#x27;s spoken rather intelligently about this in the past. But I&#x27;m frankly amazed at how earnestly he speaks about his &quot;discovery&quot; that &quot;elect me, an outsider, to fix Congress&quot; polls so well.<p>I mean, this is not a novel talking point. Does it really take an expert pollster to tell you that people like this message?
EGreg超过 9 年前
Oh boy. Looks like he&#x27;ll have to show he can be president to get his reform passed... and otherwise his campaign hit a wall, what a surprise. My response: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;magarshak.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;magarshak.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;</a>
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LeicaLatte超过 9 年前
Sounds super confusing