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Inside Britain's Secretive Bullingdon Club

66 点作者 phesse14超过 9 年前

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smoyer超过 9 年前
You have to wonder why the Brits keep electing these elites to top positions in the government (it&#x27;s a little tougher to keep alumnae from being given positions in the corporate world).<p>Of course, you have to ask the same question about US voters. And in a bit of irony, this topic and another discussion [1] of the government elites in the US vis-a-vis the Lawrence Lessig campaign are in the #2 and #1 spots on the HN front page.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10403507" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10403507</a>
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m-i-l超过 9 年前
To see the photo including the current Prime Minister (David Cameron) and the current Mayor of London (Boris Johnson), and the photo including the current Chancellor of the Exchequer (George Osborne) and Nat Rothschild (of the Rothschild family), see for example [0].<p>But beware, some of the photos appear to have had people airbrushed out[1].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iconicphotos.wordpress.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;03&#x2F;14&#x2F;the-bullingdon-club&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iconicphotos.wordpress.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;03&#x2F;14&#x2F;the-bullingdon...</a><p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2008&#x2F;oct&#x2F;26&#x2F;george-osborne-nat-rothschild" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2008&#x2F;oct&#x2F;26&#x2F;george-osbo...</a>
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MathsOX超过 9 年前
&gt; Stairway to Paradise: Between drags on her cigarette, one student says that she will be working for Goldman Sachs.<p>As someone who worked at Goldman and is college-aged, I think this says quite a lot about the piece in general. Working at Goldman is not some kind of prestigious, difficult to obtain position. If you&#x27;re in investment banking, that&#x27;s laughable. If you&#x27;re in the SSG, then that&#x27;s only more mildly impressive. I did two-weeks in London where a few of the interns were part of the Pitt club at Cambridge (albeit, not quite as storied a group, but Cambridge&#x27;s version of the Bullingdon Club) and seemed to revel in this prestige despite having decidedly worse placements in every way than myself. Only one of the three members were hired back full-time.<p>If these kids went to work at interesting hedge funds in Mayfair then I&#x27;m inclined to suggest they have some powerful connections. But, by in large, these are 18-21 year olds with all the insecurities and lack of knowledge you&#x27;d expect. In the world of finance perhaps this club helps getting you an interview at an investment bank, that&#x27;s about it. Once you see how these things work you become cognizant of the fact that stories like this are more based in what the members of the clubs want you to believe secretively, or rather a writer would like to suggest is some vast conspiracy to pontificate on his or her moral outrage, then having even the slightest basis in reality.<p>Now, I would grant that having this kind of network gives opportunities to become more involved in politics (similar to what Cameron himself did) at an early age. That&#x27;s fair, I suppose, however this notion of these secretive groups, with members who have intellects and connections that the average chap can only dream of ever obtaining is laughable. I&#x27;d encourage folks not to be drawn into articles like this, similar to the film The Riot Club, that seek to create heroic tragedies and spark mock outrage. Things are always more dull then they appear and most things aren&#x27;t intricate conspiracy theories, which unfortunately HN seems to have a predisposition towards chatting about.
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mcintyre1994超过 9 年前
&gt; Yes, we would sometimes break plates or furniture or whatever, but we tried to be as polite as we could be to the people whose establishments we were in<p>Reading about this group is just surreal.
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PythonicAlpha超过 9 年前
What is so special about it?<p>We are at the verge of a new area of aristocracy. The new aristocrats are building their relationships and are shielding themselves from the plebs -- just the same as in the Roman empire: The &quot;best&quot; people of the world, don&#x27;t need morals or standards, that belong to the outsiders.<p>That is also the reason, we need more and more surveillance -- to protect the &quot;best&quot; people from the terrorists -- all people, that oppose this world-order.
calibraxis超过 9 年前
Interesting how these aspects are distributed in different cultures. For example in the US, musicians of certain genres (and probably other artists) are expected to act that way. In the 2004 presidential election, frontrunners Bush and Kerry were both from the same elite Yale secret society, where they were trained to be members of the ruling class.
DanBC超过 9 年前
Putting his penis in a dead pig&#x27;s mouth is one of the least objectionable things about Cameron, which says a lot.<p>(And it&#x27;s probably not true, even though it was widely reported).
abhv超过 9 年前
At Harvard, there is the Porcelian club. The initiation ritual is equally secretive and elaborate. The club is said to be the third largest land owner in Cambridge (behind Harvard and MIT), and that if you are a member who is not a millionaire by the age of 40, the club will make you one (so that every alum is). Winlekvii were members