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Witch Burnings in Papua New Guinea

93 点作者 fahimulhaq超过 9 年前

10 条评论

wtbob超过 9 年前
&gt; The Highlanders fancied the music not because it was beautiful. They liked it, they explained, because the trumpets sounded exactly like the brassy screams of captive women selected for feasting.<p>And then later:<p>&gt; Our social harmony was going along until the white man arrived … You intrude, and suddenly the things that used to go smoothly no longer do.<p>I&#x27;ll go out on a limb and suggest that a social harmony in which people love the cries of those they are about to eat is a social harmony which <i>needs</i> disruption, destruction and replacement with something better.<p>What Papua New Guinea needs is more, not less colonialism; it needs a governor like General Sir Charles Napier, who put down the practice of suttee in Sindh, and who upon being entreated by the native priests that it was a sacred rite which should be respected, responded, &#x27;Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation also has a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs!&#x27; (from Sir W.F. Napier&#x27;s &#x27;History of General Sir Charles Napiers Administration of Scinde&#x27;).<p>It&#x27;s a tragedy that civilised powers did not stay there longer and correct more of PNG&#x27;s broken society; it would be a crime (of ethics, if not of law) if the Western energy companies aren&#x27;t doing something to fix that society, rather than live on its edges.
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simonsquiff超过 9 年前
PNG is an extraordinary place. My father spent a year in the highlands in 1960, in a missionary outpost in a part of the highlands tha only had contact with the outside world about 5 years earlier. He fell in love with the place and the people; I then visited the same a village a couple of years ago, and had what will probably be the trip of a lifetime, with incredible friendly, welcoming and warm people.<p>The cities however are very edgy, dangerous and of no charm whatsoever.<p>This article of course is talking about a very ugly and horrific side of the culture, albeit one that flares up once in a while rather than being ever present.<p>As it discusses, in the highlands the people didn&#x27;t even know the rest of the world existed until the 20th century. They hardly ever went to the next village. It was extraordinarily isolated. It&#x27;s also an incredible story, I strongly recommend the (out of print) book First Contact that describes how both the explorers and locals reacted to this incredible moment - all expertly documented, and recent enough that the authors could interview people who remembered it first hand.<p>The true highlands are not the towns this article discusses. Mount Hagan is a large bustling town with a main airport. It no doubt has much more occurrences of this ugliness, with communities thrown together more and the chaos of large town living.<p>The villages in the highlands, where I visited, don&#x27;t have this kind of vibe, though I&#x27;m sure sometimes events like this could occur. They have a sense of community that we in the west have lost. For instance, all the children play together in one big bundling group of fun. The 8 year olds, 5 year olds and 3 year olds (with 1 year olds on their hip) all being kids, without parents (let alone a helicopter one) - though any adult might interact if required. When this type of community setting goes wrong you get the &#x27;immune system&#x27; response this article describes, but this doesn&#x27;t paint any of the daily positives when things are normal.<p>Like the author I&#x27;m optimistic that education will make the bad parts a think of the past. But don&#x27;t think PNG is a country of savages - the highlands that I and my father knew, whilst transitioning in an exceptionally unique way are full of humanity as wonderful as anywhere in this world.
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binarycrusader超过 9 年前
<i>Thanks to missionaries ... 96 percent of people in Papua New Guinea consider themselves Christian.</i><p>That&#x27;s a bizarre bit of editorializing to put into what should be a balanced work of journalism.<p>I imagine the writer was trying to imply that most of the population in Papua New Guinea won&#x27;t participate in events like these because of a belief system they&#x27;ve acquired. However, when a writer words things like that, it makes me question their inherent bias.
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vezzy-fnord超过 9 年前
PNG has been the subject of a rather horrific ongoing civil war over the past some 45 years, but scarcely documented and seldom known in the West: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Papua_conflict" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Papua_conflict</a><p>It&#x27;s rather surreal.
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NPMaxwell超过 9 年前
It probably takes longer to figure out how to respond to this article than to other articles linked to on Hacker News
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cs702超过 9 年前
The craziest thing about this is that the perpetrators of these crimes do not seem to be &quot;using their beliefs as an excuse to kill for other reasons.&quot; Rather, it appears that long-held beliefs in witchcraft are <i>the</i> reason why the perpetrators are killing. They sincerely believe they&#x27;re in the right when they burn those women alive!<p>Warning to readers: the article contains pictures of crowds in villages watching as women accused of witchcraft are tortured before they get burned to death. It&#x27;s shocking, disgusting, and disturbing.
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contingencies超过 9 年前
Similarly out there beliefs Bali...<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smh.com.au&#x2F;world&#x2F;communist-victims-exhumed-in-bali-to-stop-their-spirits-disturbing-villagers-20151031-gknm72.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smh.com.au&#x2F;world&#x2F;communist-victims-exhumed-in-bal...</a>
fiatmoney超过 9 年前
These reactionary islanders should know best practice is to imprison your witches.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Satanic_ritual_abuse" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Satanic_ritual_abuse</a>
borplk超过 9 年前
The scrollbar was very irritating
imaginenore超过 9 年前
US evangelical christian pastors have been leading witch burning in Africa pretty recently. They burned children alive:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.huffingtonpost.com&#x2F;2009&#x2F;10&#x2F;18&#x2F;african-children-denounce_n_324943.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.huffingtonpost.com&#x2F;2009&#x2F;10&#x2F;18&#x2F;african-children-de...</a>
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