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MI5 'secretly collected phone data' for decade

279 点作者 yexponential超过 9 年前

10 条评论

dijit超过 9 年前
* MI5.<p>* GCHQ&#x2F;Tempora<p>* SIS<p>* GDS (Government Digital services)<p>* Anti-encryption laws being chased through the houses of parliment.<p>* It&#x27;s illegal to not provide, when questioned, the encryption key of a device in your possession.<p>* ISP Logging.<i></i><p>I&#x27;ve wanted to be in tech all my life and I felt that british people have facilitated a lot of good things in the tech world- but I have never been so ashamed to carry my passport. This country is one that had great laws for librarians especially after world war 2 which aided in privacy of the people.<p>but now, we seem to have forgotten that once data is collected, it can be used to target and harm people in swathes- it can be used actively to destroy individual people- or even, in moderation, can cause people to self-censor (which carries it&#x27;s own problems).<p>I&#x27;m a British citizen, I will not return to the UK while archaic laws and boneheaded policy makers are eroding the very fabric of computer culture. Looks like the next election is in 2020.
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mootothemax超过 9 年前
The scary thing about web history logging is that it makes you question your web habits, if not become actively paranoid.<p>For instance, the article quotes the head of MI5 regarding preventing the bombing of the London Stock Exchange in 2010.<p>I wanted to know more about this, so Googled <i>London Stock Exchange Bomb</i>, and clicked on a few stories, and wanting to find out a bit more about the people involved, I then Googled their names and clicked on a few more links.<p>All this time, I had the thought at the back of my head: <i>will these searches and clicks put me on a list somewhere?</i><p>(for anyone who wants to be saved searching for these terms, here&#x27;s a quick overview: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;uknews&#x2F;terrorism-in-the-uk&#x2F;9072455&#x2F;Terrorism-gang-jailed-for-plotting-to-blow-up-London-Stock-Exchange.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;uknews&#x2F;terrorism-in-the-uk&#x2F;9...</a>)<p>It&#x27;s <i>this</i> feeling that I most dislike about it all; something, or someone, somewhere <i>may be</i> watching, and so now I&#x27;m questioning myself because some discussion on some site has <i>potentially</i> questionable keywords in its URL.
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zer0defex超过 9 年前
I used to want to visit the UK, not so much anymore... when you find yourself mulling over how best to protect yourself in the same way you&#x27;d prep for attending something like defcon, it sort of loses its zeal.<p>Edit: wow, the downvotes are coming fast on this one, guess i found a nerve. <i>needle</i>
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junto超过 9 年前
What&#x27;s painfully not funny, is that the vast majority of the British public won&#x27;t see this as a problem, and won&#x27;t see any need to do anything about it.<p>There is a reason why all the data and calls go through the BT Tower in London, and why it is guarded like a fortress. All the taps are there.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BT_Tower" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BT_Tower</a>
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SturgeonsLaw超过 9 年前
The blatant contempt they have for their people is astounding.<p>&gt; The draft bill&#x27;s measures include:<p>&gt; Allowing the security services to hack into phones and computers around the world in the interests of national security<p>&gt; A new criminal offence of &quot;knowingly or recklessly obtaining communications data from a telecommunications operator without lawful authority&quot;, carrying a prison sentence of up to two years<p>In the same breath they threaten prison sentences for doing exactly what they state they&#x27;re doing.<p>&gt; The Wilson doctrine - preventing surveillance of Parliamentarians&#x27; communications - to be written into law<p>Come on guys, now you&#x27;re just taking the piss
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mst超过 9 年前
That ... would be what MI5 is for. My objections only begin when law enforcement start getting access to spook grade data (which means I&#x27;d object to them sharing with the NSA, who&#x27;re clearly rather permeable to law enforcement currently).
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0xFFC超过 9 年前
Tadaa ... . The surprising fact for me is when I was talking with mostly programmer located in USA in Reddit (I am not from us), they didn&#x27;t even care about NSA&#x2F;etc agency collect their data. They act in a way I thought they think their data belongs to NSA. that really got me to thinking. This is my right as human being to have privacy.
mildweed超过 9 年前
Real world events make for such an awful James Bond spoiler.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;11&#x2F;spectre-james-bond-video-review&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;11&#x2F;spectre-james-bond-video-review...</a>
JupiterMoon超过 9 年前
NO worries it&#x27;ll all be legal soon. If there are any senior ex-Statsi left alive they will be looking at the UK spying systems and wishing they had had this level of access.
tome超过 9 年前
They secretly collected phone data for a decade <i>and nothing untoward seems to have happened!</i> Sounds like the powers that be are reasonably responsible after all.