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Pirate needs 200k video views to avoid being sued

192 点作者 SimplyUseless超过 9 年前

32 条评论

pascalmemories超过 9 年前
A classic example of organizations (BSA, Microsoft etc.) not understanding the internet and thinking this was going to deter others.<p>Lots of online comment (and views of the video[1]) are supportive of the guy and are viewing to remove the threat of him being financially ruined (it&#x27;s almost at the 200,000 as I type).<p>MS just come across as intentional bullies and thugs (I&#x27;m paraphrasing comments made elsewhere rather than stating an opinion) and that&#x27;s probably way more damaging to them than any of their make believe financial damages ever could be.<p>The BSA have a long track record of trying to game search engines and cause reputational damage to those they sue but I expect, in the long run, the &#x27;pirate&#x27; will have more harm caused by long forgotten facebook postings than by the BSA. The world has moved on and the BSA have failed to even notice they&#x27;ve been left behind.<p>I&#x27;m tucking this one away as an example for the times I need to give examples of brain-dead stupid stuff that people who don&#x27;t understand the internet, do, thinking they&#x27;re being super clever and showing their super skills&#x2F;exacting revenge etc.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CKjPutIlBCA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CKjPutIlBCA</a><p>[edit:spelling]
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vitro超过 9 年前
Hi, I&#x27;m from the same country as the guy - Czech Republic.<p>I really don&#x27;t know if to punish people by such a humiliation is a good way to go. That movie is going to be played like one of those short movies you play in the theatre before the main movie. Soon, everybody here will know the man, imagine being him and walking on the street..<p>And because of the history of the BSA, the company that sue the guy, you cannot be sure, if this video is not just some promotion of the BSA itself, which, by the way, does not have a legal status in the Czech Republic. Company&#x27;s scandals and campaigns (if your neighbour uses illegal software, tell us and we give you 100 000 CZK [approx. 4 000 EUR] ) in past give whole thing a kind of stinky feeling..
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Spivak超过 9 年前
This situation is absolutely abhorrent and a disgusting brutish display of power on behalf of the studios. This is the civil equivalent of shooting a gun at someone&#x27;s feet and yelling, &quot;dance monkey dance.&quot; This is not about justice, this is about humiliation and is a complete perversion of everything a justice system should stand for.<p>&gt; Instead, the companies said they would be happy to receive only a <i>small payment</i> and his <i>co-operation</i> in the production of the video.<p>This is literally the line the villain in movie is supposed to say.
calgoo超过 9 年前
I hope its not as stupid as that &quot;You would not steal a car&quot; one... I would steal a car if i could copy my friends BMW with the press of a button without having any material costs. :)
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josephhh超过 9 年前
It&#x27;s like the &quot;you wouldn&#x27;t steal a helmet&quot; from IT CROWD - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YYOlNRYikBw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YYOlNRYikBw</a> - but supposedly for real.<p>According to local media, it&#x27;s facts cooking by BSA&#x2F;Microsoft, there was no alternative punishment (on the contrary - the court said that Microsoft &quot;damages&quot; are bullshit, as well as a supreme court in a similar case before) etc.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.google.com&#x2F;translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Ftechnet.idnes.cz%2Fbsa-jakub-f-alternativni-trest-deh-%2Ftec_technika.aspx%3Fc%3DA151123_141357_tec_technika_vse&amp;edit-text=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.google.com&#x2F;translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;pr...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.google.com&#x2F;translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lupa.cz%2Fclanky%2Fbsa-vymyslela-moderni-pranyr-pro-pirata-a-tradicne-manipuluje-fakty%2F&amp;edit-text=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.google.com&#x2F;translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=y&amp;pr...</a><p>The video went viral (200k in 2-3 days), but probably not in the way BSA &#x2F; Microsoft meant it.
jimrandomh超过 9 年前
There is a conversation to be had about piracy, the role of copyright and of commercial software. But forced speech is not honest speech, and allowing this sort of thing is bad for intellectual integrity. Let the BSA produce their own videos under their own name.
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sheraz超过 9 年前
Reminds me of that TV show called Black mirror [1]. Such and odd sentence that I think this is life imitating art.<p>[1] - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt2085059&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt2085059&#x2F;</a>
gnodar超过 9 年前
&gt; But the Business Software Alliance (BSA), which represented Microsoft, acknowledged that Jakub could not pay that sum.<p>If he were to put in reasonable effort into gaining the requisite number of views, and were to fall short of the goal, couldn&#x27;t the same argument be made that acquiring 200,000 video views is not within his capabilities?
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Mordekai超过 9 年前
I never understood how the companies expect these films to work in the long run. Essentially, they eagerly portray themselves (and the legal system they control) as a dark, Nazi-like totalitarian force with lowly filesharers being the persecuted underclass. I&#x27;m sure fear is the message, but doesn&#x27;t it hurt them more in the long run? Who would willingly buy products from this regime?
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hyperpape超过 9 年前
I know that local authorities are not the same as the European Union, but it&#x27;s amazing that you have this punishment in an area that subscribes to the Right to Be Forgotten. I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s any way to square that circle.
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buzzdenver超过 9 年前
<i>The man, named only as Jakub F</i><p>That&#x27;s the 21st century version of Joseph K
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Tossrock超过 9 年前
Nice to see we&#x27;ve brought back the stocks and pillory as a valid form of punishment.
astazangasta超过 9 年前
Doesn&#x27;t Microsoft now distribute Windows images for free? I&#x27;ve definitely downloaded disk images off their web site and plugged in my windows license key. What&#x27;s the exact nature of the crime, here?<p>Also, who exactly owns a license key? Is there a secondary market where I can sell my key to a third party? Because I have a buttload of Linux laptops with useless Windows license keys stickers on the side, and I&#x27;d sure like to be able to exchange them for value.
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SimplyUseless超过 9 年前
Excerpt from the article<p>&gt; The firms, which included Microsoft, HBO Europe, Sony Music and Twentieth Century Fox, estimated that the financial damage amounted to thousands of pounds, with Microsoft alone valuing its losses at 5.7m Czech Crowns (£148,000).<p>&gt; But the Business Software Alliance (BSA), which represented Microsoft, acknowledged that Jakub could not pay that sum.<p>In addition to the financial settlement, the 30-year-old was also given a three-year suspended sentence.
andreyf超过 9 年前
Surprisingly effective piece of work, even without understanding the language: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CKjPutIlBCA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CKjPutIlBCA</a>
ris超过 9 年前
I suspect this is an entirely made-up PR campaign from the BSA.
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a3n超过 9 年前
I wonder how many people are going to leave a tab open to that video and play it over and over with the sound down, as they go about their other browsing?
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kazinator超过 9 年前
The sentence is based on the assumption that the fellow isn&#x27;t a &quot;real&quot; pirate.<p>But, ironically, one way to pass the requirement is to turn to cyber-criminals: hire a botnet to generate the bulk of the 200K views.
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TactiFail超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve always been a fan of alternative forms of punishment. A guy in my highschool got caught slipping envelopes containing glitter into lockers. Innocent enough prank, but some parents freaked out as this was post-9&#x2F;11. Instead of suspension, he was told he needed to hand-write a page-long apology to each affected student, and would be denied field trips and the non-mandatory assemblies until it was done. It was around 70 letters he had to write, it only took him a few weeks, and the point was made.
ionised超过 9 年前
I&#x27;ve already witnessed people on forums claiming they have been watching the video numerous times, leaving the video running with their speakers off and generating a new IP each time.<p>I really don&#x27;t think this is going to have the effect they (the copyright holders and court) intended, and that&#x27;s a good thing.
charlysisto超过 9 年前
I guess this is the modern equivalent of being whipped by shame on each view. With a sort of promotional after thought - where economy substitutes law. Mmmm It doesn&#x27;t seem the DNA of this method will survive longer than a few sarcasms and a &#x27;shame on you&#x27; backlash
bouvin超过 9 年前
Well, that didn’t take long. 212k views at the moment.
mckoss超过 9 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flickr.com&#x2F;photos&#x2F;scriptingnews&#x2F;3116706556" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flickr.com&#x2F;photos&#x2F;scriptingnews&#x2F;3116706556</a>
josephhh超过 9 年前
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rando289超过 9 年前
Always thought it was funny how most new msft employees, especially college grads, spent years pirating windows and pirating it for their friends and family. Instead of being pushed, they are rewarded with a nice paycheck, and given thousands of dollars worth of ms software per year for themselves and their families for free.
ddingus超过 9 年前
Doing my part.<p>This, IMHO, is a very reasonable and workable solution to infringement.<p>I very strongly dislike the implied &quot;lost sale&quot; as damages argument, largely because the money &quot;implied&quot; simply isn&#x27;t there on the scale referenced by the major content producers and distributors.<p>People, by and large, have fixed entertainment dollars. And they spend them, and the forms of entertainment compete. If, suddenly, there were no infringement, people would max out those dollars, maybe adding a few here and there.. But the billions simply aren&#x27;t there.<p>The product of that would be much higher competition for entertainment, people choosing to consume less entertainment, and or choosing to self-entertain with more basic, human means.<p>When the little guy wants to get known in that environment, what do you think is going to happen?<p>They will give it away to a hungry audience, that&#x27;s what will happen.<p>And that too is a reason for my strong dislike for the high financial penalties. Infringement isn&#x27;t theft. The rights owner still has everything, and loses nothing. In fact, they still have the opportunity, potentially improved by the infringing act, to sell to the infringer, right along with everyone else, and in particular, who that infringer may recommend to, or share about.<p>I&#x27;m not saying it&#x27;s right. It&#x27;s not. I am saying a much more rational and real conversation needs to happen about these things. The equation to theft is actually doing us a lot of harm, due to bad discussions lead to bad law, and bad law leads to a state where it&#x27;s not respected, etc... and that is where we are today.<p>Law that doesn&#x27;t take into account the realities and dynamics won&#x27;t be effective. It almost never is. And that discord drives people to reject it and ignore it, circumvent it...<p>Anyway, this is good! What it does do is improve on norms, and as Lessig tells us, regulation happens via law, physics, norms, money or markets.<p>Requiring people to demonstrate or help to improve on social norms can do a lot of good here, and it&#x27;s time and energy better spent, IMHO.<p>I see jimrandomh talking about forced speech. Well, this kind of thing does further the conversation, and we all know the source of the speech and why it&#x27;s happening. There is no need to be dishonest about any of it, and where we aren&#x27;t, the better dialogs can happen.<p>I prefer this to bankrupting people.
mortenlarsen超过 9 年前
To my mind this is equivalent of blackmail. He may be better off with this solution, but I still think it is nothing short of blackmail.<p>I think this because of the imbalance of power. What he can expect to earn in a lifetime is a drop on the ocean for them.
lordnacho超过 9 年前
Well he&#x27;ll surely get those hits now that the BBC has picked it up?
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joesmo超过 9 年前
I watched it just to help. Almost 300k views now. Piracy is a right, not a crime and something that is positive for the world, esp. software piracy, IMO.
williswee超过 9 年前
gotta help this guy!
rhaps0dy超过 9 年前
Congratulations on the 200k views!
mpitt超过 9 年前
One of the few movies where a hacker uses Windows.
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