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Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design

281 点作者 threecoins超过 9 年前

31 条评论

mapt超过 9 年前
Here&#x27;s what I think is more likely:<p>A small regional airport is taken over by Amazon. They build hangars and warehouses onsite.<p>It&#x27;s ramped up to land and fly a big turbine-powered mothership every five minutes. The warehouse dispatches packages to stacks of delivery drones like the one pictured in the video. The mothership loads the delivery drones in order. The motherships take off regularly, and then as the mothership flies near the target swath, the drones are released one by one and glide to the target zone efficiently before doing a vertical landing.<p>Empty, they return autonomously to a small recovery facility in a vacant lot somewhere within ~5km. They&#x27;re packed into a pickup or a semi and returned to the airfield in stacks.<p>------<p>Why?<p>Because VTOL flight is not easy to do at long ranges; Batteries generally limit that to 10-30 minutes since vehicle mass fraction is large. Because very small planes are only a small multiple (2-5x) more efficient than VTOL flight. Because high speeds are something vehicles like this are not great at.<p>A drone like this doesn&#x27;t have a great straight-line range when you sling a heavy load under it; Amazon is not going to erect sizable warehouses within ~5km of every plausible delivery. Their stock is too large, and too sparsely ordered.<p>--------<p>Or, even more likely?<p>Replace the flying mothership with a box truck dispenser. The driver stops at his target neighborhood, sends the drones out, they deliver autonomously, takes the drones back in 10 minutes later, and returns to regional warehouse in the next 20-50 minutes of driving, for 30 to 60 minute delivery.<p>Amazon gets to deliver to a neighborhood rather than to a house.
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krschultz超过 9 年前
Cue Amazon&#x27;s PR firm trying to win &#x27;cyber-monday&#x27;.<p>Whether or not Amazon ever delivers packages with drones, the ROI on the drone R&amp;D is massive simply based on how much attention it draws each year on cyber monday.
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ChuckMcM超过 9 年前
While I find the technology impressive, it makes me wonder if &quot;Black Friday&quot; is going to look like the Blitz, a low hum and looking up, wave after wave of aircraft coming over the city looking for the right place to drop their payload ...
eclipxe超过 9 年前
I like the placards placed in &quot;safe landing zones&quot;. Simple solution to hard problem.
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zw123456超过 9 年前
For a while I have thought that a cool way of doing this would be if the drones could fly close to high voltage power lines and use induction to power it and charge the battery. Then when it gets close to the destination it could peel away from the high tension lines and use battery for to cover the last mile. That way you could have the warehouse in some industrial area or whatever. They could make a deal with the power companies and those lines could be like the arterial lines for the drones. I have Googled around and this is not a new idea but I have not seen anyone try it or test it, at least not from the searches I have done. I believe it is feasible as those lines are 500KV and as a drone moves past it, there is a significant EM field around it and an inductor lowered down 20 feet or so from the drone could pick up enough power while maintaining a safe distance. Has anyone else heard of such a thing being tried anywhere ?
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kriro超过 9 年前
My major takeaway is that they are trying to push as close to instant delivery as possible (30 minutes seems like pretty remarkable goal). Potentially taking out the delivery service middleman is also good. I have my doubts (regulation, security concerns, social doubt a la Google glass) but overall it seems like a good long term strategy to try this.<p>If they ever come close to hitting the 30 minute delivery it also opens up the entire food delivery industry as a potential Amazon extension. Buying one of these &quot;premade meal delivery&quot; startups could also be an option.
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milesf超过 9 年前
Love that they got Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear fame to do the video. I&#x27;m guessing he likely had a hand in writing the copy as well.
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petersouth超过 9 年前
I think there&#x27;s gonna be alot of teenage pranks and destruction. People setting the landing spot in the water or people stealing them with nets. Not sure if much recourse unless there camera footage or gps locator.
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pinkunicorn超过 9 年前
Shit, I thought this was a marketing gimmick. Looks like they might actually be delivering. And it looks quite awesome to be honest.<p>And development in Israel? Wow!
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cxseven超过 9 年前
Every neighborhood should have a delivery nexus where packages are to be picked up &#x2F; dropped off! That&#x27;d make more sense than everyone needing a dedicated Amazon landing pad in their backyard.<p>You could also have fresh baked goods and produce economically delivered daily like they did back in the cutting edge of the 1800s.
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listic超过 9 年前
I wonder how can delivery with drones be more economically effective than with cars and drivers, with &quot;distances of 10 miles or more&quot;? Which, if I&#x27;m not mistaken, still somewhat exceeds capabilities of today&#x27;s drones.
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coderdude超过 9 年前
&quot;Jeff Bezos beats DoD at it&#x27;s own game&quot; -Business Insider
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alooPotato超过 9 年前
I&#x27;m really curious how this beats a amazon owned delivery truck? Serious question.<p>Economically and at scale, it seems like both the truck and drone are actually pretty cheap.<p>Speed of delivery and at scale, the only way the drone is faster is if there is a warehouse in each city and your item is stocked. Otherwise, the bottleneck in delivery time is the long distance shipping.<p>Feasibility and at scale, the truck seems way less risky and more adaptable to bad conditions.
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logicallee超过 9 年前
people in the 60&#x27;s thought we would have flying cars in the 21st century.<p>in reality we&#x27;ll never need to go anywhere anymore, not for work, not for meetings, not for a movie, and not for groceries. what&#x27;s a city for anyway? Oh, nightclubs I guess...
blackjack48超过 9 年前
A couple days ago, I needed a new cordless landline phone and wanted to try out Prime Now. It was impressive that I could track my courier&#x27;s location and have it arrive within half an hour - only problem was that it was the wrong model. I&#x27;ve ordered hundreds of things from Amazon and can&#x27;t recall ever receiving an incorrect item. To make matters worse, the CS rep I spoke to said they couldn&#x27;t send couriers to do returns or exchanges: I had to UPS it 2,000 miles to Kentucky. Winning the ecommerce delivery race won&#x27;t mean anything unless Amazon can maintain its high accuracy rate and positive user experience.
gist超过 9 年前
It would seem to be a better option to try and drop a package by parachute rather than have to land the drone, release and takeoff. If the package is only 5 lbs. or less and has a parachute attached that seems much safer (for both the drone and for people) than landing and taking off assuming a predetermined landing spot is located.<p>My other issue with this is given changing weather conditions and the amount of wind or rain a drone can handle (energy efficiently that is) how many days per year can this service be offered vs. how many customers there actually are that need this type of delivery. (Note the example that they give ..)
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eli超过 9 年前
And on the day before &quot;Cyber Monday,&quot; what an opportune time for Amazon to dominate headline for a day. Such luck.
anon4this1超过 9 年前
Does anyone else think that underground tunnels are a superior way to solve the last few miles problem? Tunnels about 1 foot in diameter with little wheeled vehicles pushing around payloads of takeaway food, groceries , parcels at reasonable speed with control computers determining routing and stopping collisions. A functioning network of this type would be more valuable than power or cable utility networks, and horizontal tunnel drilling tech means that you dont have to dig up huge swathes of road to put tunnels in.
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sixQuarks超过 9 年前
Is it just me, or is Jeremy Clarkson&#x27;s voice off by a few milliseconds in the video?
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TrevorJ超过 9 年前
Thinking about it a lot, and I think the simpler way to solve the same problem would be shipping container sized package &#x27;vending machines&#x27;. These could be distributed anywhere a couple parking spaces worth of land could be rented.<p>You could either pick up your items yourself, or pickups could be handled via an &quot;uber for packages&quot; type model.<p>The advantage of a system like that would be how quickly it could change based on demand, and it would work well inside all the current shipping infrastructure.<p>The trick would be stocking the right items in the right locations, but if anyone has the data to be able to do that it&#x27;s Amazon.
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josephpmay超过 9 年前
I have trouble understanding where the package goes in the drones (which I guess is good for deterring theft). Also, they don&#x27;t really provide any scale, but the drones appear to be pretty huge.
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wowzer超过 9 年前
While time will tell if we ever actually see this drones in action, imagine how cool it must be for the people working on this project. They get to go to work each day playing with some really fancy model airplanes. Plus, this is Amazon pushing yet another aspect of technology forward. They may overwork their employees, but cool things are coming out of those offices.
narrator超过 9 年前
Probably won&#x27;t be able to deliver in bad weather. Small aircraft aviation is always subject to the whims of the weather.
damian2000超过 9 年前
This made me think about self driving cars and whether its possible to make a self driving delivery van or truck - able to handle bulkier &#x2F; heavier loads and all weather conditions.
orasis超过 9 年前
The big question is: How loud are the drones? Every quad-rotor I&#x27;ve been around is too loud for the average upscale neighborhood that these will be delivering to.
pmoriarty超过 9 年前
Direct links to the videos:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com&#x2F;images&#x2F;G&#x2F;01&#x2F;112715&#x2F;download&#x2F;PrimeAirVideo01.zip" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com&#x2F;images&#x2F;G&#x2F;01&#x2F;112715&#x2F;d...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com&#x2F;images&#x2F;G&#x2F;01&#x2F;112715&#x2F;download&#x2F;PrimeAirVideo02.zip" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com&#x2F;images&#x2F;G&#x2F;01&#x2F;112715&#x2F;d...</a>
zeisss超过 9 年前
so, assuming this works: Won&#x27;t they get a lot of problems with wind &#x2F; bad weather regions? I guess they won&#x27;t be happy if they can do this only half of a year, and the other half the drones are sitting around.<p>So, if this takes off (phun intended) will Amazon try weather control next?
legohead超过 9 年前
Can&#x27;t wait to see and hear hundreds of drones in the sky.
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kylehotchkiss超过 9 年前
Anybody know where this was filmed?
dharma1超过 9 年前
still gonna get shot down in texas
ck2超过 9 年前
They are going to have to go back and update all the movies that attempt to guess the future.<p>Apparently there are going to be a bunch of drones flying around delivering to people in the suburbs.<p>Looks very cool but in the real world so many things can go wrong, I am sure people are going to intercept and either damage or steal the drones.
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