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Air gaps never exist (2011)

43 点作者 cba9超过 9 年前

9 条评论

tlrobinson超过 9 年前
Doesn't "air gapped" imply physical separation? Putting a firewall, even if it's totally locked down, between two networks does not make it "air gapped".
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jimrandomh超过 9 年前
&gt; &quot;How do you think I got the firmware updates? We just made an SSH tunnel over TCP 53 and proxied HTTP to the Sun website.&quot;<p>Sounds like the real problem was they didn&#x27;t have a better mechanism for getting things like that in. If a security system stops people from doing their jobs, they&#x27;ll poke a hole in it unless you provide a better option.
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elchief超过 9 年前
Pedantically, not a &quot;gap&quot; if there&#x27;s a network cable going to another network...
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alkonaut超过 9 年前
I thought &quot;air gap&quot; meant a machine or network that is physically separated (these days also without any radio connection) to other machines.<p>How can those not exist?
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genericresponse超过 9 年前
That&#x27;s why you commit to multiple layers and types of defensive and recovery measures. Intelligence, preparation, prevention, prevention, prevention, monitoring, adaptation, more monitoring, effective response, well planned recovery.
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_wldu超过 9 年前
Air gaps can also be bridged by using radio or sound waves. There could be a bunch on non-networked computers in a secure lab all talking to each other. This assumes trojaned hardware and&#x2F;or operating system software in the systems that can send and receive data and commands.<p>Finally, technology such as Morse Code is still useful in these scenarios. Dits and dahs. Zeros and ones. That&#x27;s all you need to be able to send and recv data.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jocm.us&#x2F;index.php?m=content&amp;c=index&amp;a=show&amp;catid=124&amp;id=600" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jocm.us&#x2F;index.php?m=content&amp;c=index&amp;a=show&amp;catid=...</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;air-hopper-malware-final-e-141029143252-conversion-gate01.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;11&#x2F;air-hopper-m...</a>
hackuser超过 9 年前
&gt; the blue cables in gas filled tubes<p>Cat5&#x2F;6 cables? Why would they be in gas-filled tubes?
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wallaceowen21超过 9 年前
Back in the early days of Ethernet there were fiber to AUI widgets, that used 2 multimode fibers, one for TX, one for RX. We used these on classified systems with ony RX connected - we could send data in to these systems over UDP, and it was truly a one-way path.
munin超过 9 年前
&gt; I have seem so many kludges connecting SIPPER and NIPPER networks<p>I don&#x27;t know how much I trust someone who can&#x27;t even get the acronym for SIPR and NIPR right (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SIPRNet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SIPRNet</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;NIPRNet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;NIPRNet</a>)
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